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**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by LatinMind

Yes but between Lane and Fluker. With Lane its more about not being at the maturation level with his body, strength and some technique. With Fluker that maturation isnt a problem because his body is already matured. The guy was run in a pro style system but he too needs work on his technique. But he doesnt need that maturation growth.

Oh and one of the coaches just got hired too. You dont think he would be asked what he thought about him? I like both players and i think Dallas needs a T even above a G. But with me id rather take a nasty player that can handle the physical part of the game from the get go, as opposed to a player who needs that maturation time.

Here is what I see in order.

1. I don't see any way Fluker is an OT the way he is right now. He would have to go to the combine and check in at around 320/325 and then he would have to show well.

2. The concern from the NFL, I suspcet, with Fluker will be if he can stay strong at a leaner weight. I believe that the NFL is going to worry about him being able to play at a lower weight at RT or they are going to have to move him to Guard and while I believe he could be a great player at G, I don't believe he will ever be a great player at RT at 355. The NFL will be less worried about his maturity level physically and more worried about him eating his way out of the League. Basically the same kind of thing they worried about with George Foster from Georgia and Aaron Gibson from Wisconsin. They both came out as huge men as Tackles and they both failed in the NFL because they could not get down to the weight they needed to be and maintain it.

3. Let me 1st say that I don't believe the Cowboys will draft Johnson because Johnson, IMO, is a LT. He is not a RT. If the Cowboys took him, it would be to play LT IMO. Now, that is not impossible because it is my opinion that, while Smith has the physical ability to play LT, he may actually be better suited to play RT. It would mean a switch for him back to RT and it would also create cap issues on the OL. You would be spending a lot of money on the Tackles. Johnson is 6-6 I believe and he has the body to put on weight. By the time he gets to the Combine, he will probably weigh in the area of 315 to 320. He will get stronger and he will improve his technique, which is not bad now but will get much better. Physically, he can do anything at OT because he has excellent athleticism. His potential at LT is through the roof.

That's just how I see this.

xwalker · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Here is what I see in order.

1. I don't see any way Fluker is an OT the way he is right now. He would have to go to the combine and check in at around 320/325 and then he would have to show well.

2. The concern from the NFL, I suspcet, with Fluker will be if he can stay strong at a leaner weight. I believe that the NFL is going to worry about him being able to play at a lower weight at RT or they are going to have to move him to Guard and while I believe he could be a great player at G, I don't believe he will ever be a great player at RT at 355. The NFL will be less worried about his maturity level physically and more worried about him eating his way out of the League. Basically the same kind of thing they worried about with George Foster from Georgia and Aaron Gibson from Wisconsin. They both came out as huge men as Tackles and they both failed in the NFL because they could not get down to the weight they needed to be and maintain it.

I see Fluker as similar to a less athletic Leonard Davis. Arizona wasted their time playing Bigg at OT.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by xwalker

I see Fluker as similar to a less athletic Leonard Davis. Arizona wasted their time playing Bigg at OT.

Yes, they did. A decent RG though.

LatinMind · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Here is what I see in order.

1. I don't see any way Fluker is an OT the way he is right now. He would have to go to the combine and check in at around 320/325 and then he would have to show well.

2. The concern from the NFL, I suspcet, with Fluker will be if he can stay strong at a leaner weight. I believe that the NFL is going to worry about him being able to play at a lower weight at RT or they are going to have to move him to Guard and while I believe he could be a great player at G, I don't believe he will ever be a great player at RT at 355. The NFL will be less worried about his maturity level physically and more worried about him eating his way out of the League. Basically the same kind of thing they worried about with George Foster from Georgia and Aaron Gibson from Wisconsin. They both came out as huge men as Tackles and they both failed in the NFL because they could not get down to the weight they needed to be and maintain it.

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Well seems that scouts are disagreeing with you. Because Fluker rising. As a RT not a G.

Why i dont know. But id like to see him in a Cowboy uniform. And if he works better at G IDC. The guy is a nasty, huge. Something this team needs. Warmack or Fluker id love.

rags747 · 02-07-2013

I think I would be more than happy to let Parnell start at RT as long as we got some new inside players in this draft. How would Warmack and Cooper compare to DeCastro ?

Rack Bauer · 02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

Perfect guy to trade back for and add some depth to our draft class imo.

Im all about quantity in this draft. I wouldn't be too upset if we traded completely out of round 1.

BS on the quantity over quality. We have fallen into that trap too often

if it got us clowney next year I'm ok with it.

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