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02-08-2013
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#16
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Waitin' on the 6th
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Originally Posted by BraveHeartFan
Good for her.
I love how tough people act on the internet. Its hilarious how much bravado and tough guy act they have when they know they're safe and secure in the fact that they don't have to face anyone they're mouthing off to.
The kind of people who do that I'd love to see how they'd react if they were forced to be in the room with people they talked smack to, or about, online. I'd be willing to be about 99.9% of them would piss themselves.
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I agree, they would.
I hate bullying at any level, in any form.
I'm not sure what satisfaction people get from making fun of others.
But another thing that bothers me, is that this girl would let that get to her.
I know it is different for a girl, but I wish her confidence was such that she just laughed this off.
She is not ugly, not by a long shot.
If someone calls me green, I don't care because I know I'm not green.
I wish she would just shrug it off.
I really don't care what others are saying about me. Heck, maybe they are saying things about me on Facebook or Twitter, I'm not on those so I could not care less.
She should just rise above these losers, and move on.
Maybe she did, and only made the video to help others.
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02-08-2013
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#17
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2004 |
Location: | Orlando, FL |
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If that's the pic, then this thing is really stupid.
We've all been put down before.
The pic is not even a pic of the girl in the video.
Somebody calls you ugly they have the right to their opinion. Doesn't mean I have to like it. And I have the right to ignore it or the right to make sure I don't ever deal with that person again.
If that's the pic and this girl is crying bullying...she really doesn't know what bullying is and is doing a disservice to the people that actually get bullied.
YR
The integrity of the Dallas Sports Media can be summed up in this quote 'I've gotta be the bad guy on CBS11 and my radio job on ESPN. I don't have to be the bad guy here.' - Steve Dennis
Legend of Kirby Dar Dar Blog
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02-08-2013
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#18
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich
If that's the pic, then this thing is really stupid.
We've all been put down before.
The pic is not even a pic of the girl in the video.
Somebody calls you ugly they have the right to their opinion. Doesn't mean I have to like it. And I have the right to ignore it or the right to make sure I don't ever deal with that person again.
If that's the pic and this girl is crying bullying...she really doesn't know what bullying is and is doing a disservice to the people that actually get bullied.
YR
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It's suppose to be her.(see articles) And you don't know what cyber bullying is and do a disservice to compassionate human beings.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...2996--nfl.html
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ack-with-video
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
Last edited by speedkilz88 : 02-08-2013 at 09:19 AM.
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02-08-2013
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#19
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Actually, I think she is quite lovely, even in the controversial picture. It is the inconsiderate and unruly fans that are ugly. But then, how would you know how stupid they are if they didn't open their mouths and tell you?
'notherBob
This space for rent - you looked didn't you?
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02-08-2013
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#20
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Senior Member
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Face comparison
Same girl.
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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02-08-2013
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#21
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2012 |
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Completely agree with the facebook admins. This is NOT cyberbullying. It's unfortunate that she's using such a serious issue as a ploy to selfishly get a bad image of her removed.
I don't condone the crude remarks, but it's a football fan page, and she chose to represent the team publicly (whether as a volunteer or not is besides the point), so she opened herself to this type of scrutiny from rival fans. She's more of a victim of her own narcissism and ego than any form of cyber bullying.
Sure, I'd HATE if my loved ones were being called ugly (in multiple ways) on some fan page, but I'd know to just ignore it, especially if they were public figures in a situation like this. I'm sure the families of politicians, actresses, female athletes, etc. hear much worse directly aimed at their loved ones, and they have no choice but to ignore it.
Yesterday, Deadspin took the worst photo of Beyonce ever, and turned it into a public photoshop contest to see who can make the most fun of it. Obviously Jay-z wouldn't be happy about something like that. It's actually much much worse than this bc in this cheerleader case, no one is directly attacking the girl by name or going on a witch hunt to ruin her life. We don't even know her name.
She could easily just NOT click on the fan page for a team that she has zero association with, and none of this would effect her. That's far far different from what actual victims of cyber bullying have to deal with on the internet.
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02-08-2013
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#22
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It didn't look like it to me. I believe that is if they are saying that, I just didn't see a real resemblance. Honestly, it looked like the photo was shot in the 1970's.
Still, people are entitled to their opinion. If they think she's ugly, then that's their opinion. People are going to say and do a lot worse to you in life.
And I know what cyber bullying is. This ain't it.
YR
The integrity of the Dallas Sports Media can be summed up in this quote 'I've gotta be the bad guy on CBS11 and my radio job on ESPN. I don't have to be the bad guy here.' - Steve Dennis
Legend of Kirby Dar Dar Blog
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02-08-2013
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#23
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Cyberbullying is bullying that takes place using electronic technology. Electronic technology includes devices and equipment such as cell phones, computers, and tablets as well as communication tools including social media sites, text messages, chat, and websites.
Examples of cyberbullying include mean text messages or emails, rumors sent by email or posted on social networking sites, and embarrassing pictures, videos, websites, or fake profiles.
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http://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbul...-it/index.html
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Legal definition
Cyberbullying is defined in legal glossaries as
actions that use information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm another or others.
use of communication technologies for the intention of harming another person
use of internet service and mobile technologies such as web pages and discussion groups as well as instant messaging or SMS text messaging with the intention of harming another person. [View Full Quote]Examples of what constitutes cyberbullying include communications that seek to intimidate, control, manipulate, put down, falsely discredit, or humiliate the recipient. The actions are deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior intended to harm another. Cyberbullying has been defined by The National Crime Prevention Council: “When the Internet, cell phones or other devices are used to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person."[1][2]
A cyberbully may be a person whom the target knows or an online stranger. A cyberbully may be anonymous and may solicit involvement of other people online who do not even know the target. This is known as a 'digital pile-on.'[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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02-08-2013
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#24
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Originally Posted by speedkilz88
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"Embarrassing pictures" doesn't apply here.
This is a picture that only she is embarrassed by now because all the mean Bears fans called her (and the group of cheerleaders in general) ugly after seeing it. It's not some photo that was altered in any fashion to purposely bully her directly.
She was more than happy with the fans who had nice things to say about her. That's called ego. Not bullying.
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02-08-2013
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#25
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Blitzen32
"Embarrassing pictures" doesn't apply here.
This is a picture that only she is embarrassed by now because all the mean Bears fans called her (and the group of cheerleaders in general) ugly after seeing it. It's not some photo that was altered in any fashion to purposely bully her directly.
She was more than happy with the fans who had nice things to say about her. That's called ego. Not bullying.
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Posting a photo that people gang up and call ugly is indeed the definition of cyberbullying. That you can argue that fact is disturbing.
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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02-08-2013
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#26
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Senior Member
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You obviously have had no clue what cyber bullying is then.
Nobody is directly attacking this girl. She can go about her daily life without any sort of complications if she chooses to. That includes being able to check her twitter and facebook. No one even knows her name.
Facebook (a public corp with lawyers who specialize in this) agreed that it's not cyber bullying, so I'll take that educated fact over what you're copy/pasting from whatever website you just googled to support a flawed opinion.
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02-08-2013
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Blitzen32
You obviously have had no clue what cyber bullying is then.
Nobody is directly attacking this girl. She can go about her daily life without any sort of complications if she chooses to. That includes being able to check her twitter and facebook. No one even knows her name.
Facebook (a public corp with lawyers who specialize in this) agreed that it's not cyber bullying, so I'll take that educated fact over what you're copy/pasting from whatever website you just googled to support a flawed opinion.
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That's same thing could be said of girls who were attacked on facebook in the same way, unfortunately some of those girls have committed suicide. When you make fun of someone and they find out about it hurts them. That is bullying!
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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02-08-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2009 |
Location: | Chesapeake, VA |
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If you can't handle criticism, warranted or not, stay out of the public sphere and don't post your stuff online. IMO, that the trade-off for celebratory.
"When debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." ~Socrates
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02-08-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2012 |
Posts: | 203 |
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Originally Posted by speedkilz88
That's same thing could be said of girls who were attacked on facebook in the same way, unfortunately some of those girls have committed suicide. When you make fun of someone and they find out about it hurts them. That is bullying!
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Dude, I know about those girls, and that's why I'm trying to explain that this is VERY different.
Those girls don't stick their heads out SEEKING attention, and go out of the way to be in the spotlight (like a cheerleader for a freakin NFL team).
The best part of this little video is how she was praising all the people who called her cute. She's got no problem with the celebrity status of being a cheerleader, and definitely no problem reading through anything positive about her picture. It just hurt her feelings when everyone didn't have that opinion.
HUGE difference between this and cyber bullying.
Last edited by Blitzen32 : 02-08-2013 at 10:49 AM.
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02-08-2013
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#30
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De puts the D back in D
Joined: | May 2007 |
Posts: | 2,726 |
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Originally Posted by Denim Chicken
If you can't handle criticism, warranted or not, stay out of the public sphere and don't post your stuff online. IMO, that the trade-off for celebratory.
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I don't think she was trying to be a celebrity per se. She didn't go into this expecting to get this type of attention good or bad.
I agree with you though for big celebrities that are so offended by paparazzi and the rest of their lives having to deal with the public, they need to accept that is part of their career.
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