Packers Cheerleader responds to cyber-bullying

[Denim Chicken]

After doing a little research on cyber bullying; I do not believe it should be a crime. Seems to me to infringe upon free speech; however, private websites can regulate content as they see fit.

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

After doing a little research on cyber bullying; I do not believe it should be a crime. Seems to me to infringe upon free speech; however, private websites can regulate content as they see fit.

You're absolutely right.

When I was in school, I was bullied because I had a speech problem. And unless they got physical with me, it was usually perfectly legal -- just as it should've been.

However, the fact it was legal didn't make it right.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

You're absolutely right.

When I was in school, I was bullied because I had a speech problem. And unless they got physical with me, it was usually perfectly legal -- just as it should've been.

However, the fact it was legal didn't make it right.

yep, I'm just commenting on the legality not the morality.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

These videos where people sit there and hold up sheet after sheet of paper are really starting to wear out their welcome. I've seen more than enough to lose patience in them at this point.

Don't watch it then, Hoof. Pretty easy solution.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

You're absolutely right.

When I was in school, I was bullied because I had a speech problem. And unless they got physical with me, it was usually perfectly legal -- just as it should've been.

However, the fact it was legal didn't make it right.

I actually wonder how this will eventually be interpreted in the future. I mean, I would guess that in cases such as the one with Todd, the bullying started in such a way as to be withing legal limits. Eventually, it escalated and probably crossed that legal line at some point but the issue, it would seem to me, is that it's a progressive behavioral pattern that increasingly gets worse. The more you are allowed to do, the further people take it. If that's true, then at some point, you have to consider the possibility that cutting the behavior short as early as possible would be considered legally.

It's going to be interesting how this is considered going forward.

Your statement about legal and right is dead on Scip. I would guess that what you are talking about there is even more relevant now because it is worse now. You can post anything or text anything and who's going to catch you? The problem is too wide spread and there is not enough control over the situation so people will take it too far, particularly young people but this is certainly not a situation that is exclusive to children. Adults are just as guilty of the behavior, thou perhaps not as often. At least I hope they are not.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

The more you are allowed to do, the further people take it.

That's a scary statement.

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

After doing a little research on cyber bullying; I do not believe it should be a crime. Seems to me to infringe upon free speech; however, private websites can regulate content as they see fit.

I believe cyber bullying should be a crime.

This just isn't cyber bullying. We have plenty of times where others call somebody 'stupid' or the like on this forum (along with countless other places on the internet). There are no cries to stop those people from cyber bullying. Nor should there be.

The real problem I see here is that in life it's a good thing to be able to ignore people's insults, negativity, bad behavior, etc. It's the old 'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me' mantra.

If we start crying foul for every put down, then cases like Amanda Todd which are real serious cases of cyber bullying, get lost in this nonsense.






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[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

That's a scary statement.

Very much so. However, that is exactly the pattern Cyberbullying takes.

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by speedkilz88

Did you see the pic that was being used on the Bears fan site? Not a flattering pic.(posted below) Also from what I've read the Packers don't have (professional) cheerleaders like the Cowboys. They simply allow local college cheerleaders (male and female) form a cheer squad.

What about it? She's cheerleading. It's not like she's picking her nose.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Very much so. However, that is exactly the pattern Cyberbullying takes.

I'd rather take the risk of some people having their feelings hurt than the risk of giving govt more reasons to restrict free speech

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

I'd rather take the risk of some people having their feelings hurt than the risk of giving govt more reasons to restrict free speech

I don't necessarily disagree with this position but the question is really one of legal precedents.

If it is determined that allowing such behavior only results in continued bullying, ever escalating, it can be argued that the best solution for prevention is to stop it before it has a chance to escalate further. Now, I'm not a lawyer and I don't really know all the ins and outs of something like that but that would be how I could see this being implemented.

Would it be right? No, it would probably be a bad thing but unfortunately, like many things in life, decisions are made for us based on the worst possible scenario and not necessarily on the majority of society and how reasonable said society might be.

That would be the fear I would have.

[ScipioCowboy]

This is an interesting thread.

Basically, some posters on a Chicago Bear fan page made some disparaging and hateful remarks about a Packers cheerleader. She responded by calling them out on a youtube video. That's all she did.

Yet, you have people attacking her. SMH

[davidyee]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Dude, I know about those girls, and that's why I'm trying to explain that this is VERY different.

Those girls don't stick their heads out SEEKING attention, and go out of the way to be in the spotlight (like a cheerleader for a freakin NFL team).

The best part of this little video is how she was praising all the people who called her cute. She's got no problem with the celebrity status of being a cheerleader, and definitely no problem reading through anything positive about her picture. It just hurt her feelings when everyone didn't have that opinion.

HUGE difference between this and cyber bullying.

...coveniently forgotten the comment one poster wanted to do with her and a paper bag.

If that isn't a personal attack on the girl I don't know what is???

I don't understand you. Whether this is some formal or criminal term you can't sit there on your keyboard/electronic device and publicly say you condone this.

Is this how you interact with society or want it to interact with you and your loved ones. Whether you are famous or not? Rich or not?

What does this kind of action say about the culture of sports fandom that the cheerleaders have anything bearing on the value of a sports franchise?

Especially with a metric, such as beauty, where the old adage is its truly in the eye of the beholder.

Cowboys fans are certainly not showing their best in this thread.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

That is hardly cyber bullying. It wasn't constant in her face etc

Was it mean, yes, but hardly bullying.

I agree though that the holding up sign schtick is wearing thin.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, so far she has forced both FB and the Bears Site to take down the pictures etc. Basically, to do what they should have probably done already.

So far as I can tell, the card communication approach as worked exceedingly well. Some may not like it but it is evidently proving to be effective.