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02-08-2013
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#61
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Lightning Rod
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
Well, so far she has forced both FB and the Bears Site to take down the pictures etc. Basically, to do what they should have probably done already.
So far as I can tell, the card communication approach as worked exceedingly well. Some may not like it but it is evidently proving to be effective.
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No more effective than if she can just called them to take it down, or made a speaking youtube video.
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02-08-2013
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#62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
No more effective than if she can just called them to take it down, or made a speaking youtube video.
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No, there is no proof of this. They said themselves that they are inundated with requests coming in and can't keep up. There is really zero proof, IMO, that a call or a youtube speaking video would have had the same effect.
However, there is quantifiable proof that the approach the young lady used was, in fact, very effective.
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02-08-2013
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#63
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Bi-polar? I'm Bi-winning, I've got Tigers blood and Adonis DNA!!
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This bullying stuff is getting out of hand IMO.........whh don't we just take away the First Amendment so everyone is happy
I really don't like the PC movement
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Originally Posted by Gameover
Romo is 100% the main problem.
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Originally Posted by Gameover
I see a team that could finish 4-12.
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02-08-2013
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#64
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Lightning Rod
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
No, there is no proof of this. They said themselves that they are inundated with requests coming in and can't keep up. There is really zero proof, IMO, that a call or a youtube speaking video would have had the same effect.
However, there is quantifiable proof that the approach the young lady used was, in fact, very effective.
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I disagree. Just because one way worked does not mean the other would not have had the same effect.
One has to wonder though why someone would call the Bears over someone else being ripped. I guess there are a lot of people with way too much time on their hands.
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02-08-2013
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#65
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Convicted of Gnostical Turpitude
Joined: | Jan 2007 |
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Originally Posted by TheDallasDon
This bullying stuff is getting out of hand IMO.........whh don't we just take away the First Amendment so everyone is happy
I really don't like the PC movement
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Whose first amendment rights are being violated here?
"Many of the greatest things man has achieved are not the result of consciously directed thought, and still less the product of a deliberately coordinated effort of many individuals, but of a process in which the individual plays a part which he can never fully understand." - Friedrich Hayek
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02-08-2013
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Bi-polar? I'm Bi-winning, I've got Tigers blood and Adonis DNA!!
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Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy
Whose first amendment rights are being violated here?
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None???
But i didn't say they were, so not sure what ur getting at
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Originally Posted by Gameover
Romo is 100% the main problem.
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Originally Posted by Gameover
I see a team that could finish 4-12.
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02-08-2013
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#67
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Convicted of Gnostical Turpitude
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Originally Posted by TheDallasDon
None???
But i didn't say they were, so not sure what ur getting at
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I don't see how this is a first amendment issue.
"Many of the greatest things man has achieved are not the result of consciously directed thought, and still less the product of a deliberately coordinated effort of many individuals, but of a process in which the individual plays a part which he can never fully understand." - Friedrich Hayek
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02-08-2013
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#68
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Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.
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Originally Posted by Blitzen32
Are you even reading this thread? We've already addressed the difference between altering images/directly threatening someone vs. OP's story.
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That wasn't what I was trying to point out in my post. I was trying to point out the fact that using Facebook's determination to remove a post as your stick for cyberbullying is faulty. The example I used I believe is a clear case of cyberbullying. If you use your measuring stick of "Facebook says it is not cyberbullying and doing nothing, that's good enough for me that it is not cyberbullying" then I think that's faulty.
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Go farther, Go further, Go harder. Is that not why we came? And if not, then why bother?
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02-08-2013
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#69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
I disagree. Just because one way worked does not mean the other would not have had the same effect.
One has to wonder though why someone would call the Bears over someone else being ripped. I guess there are a lot of people with way too much time on their hands.
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I agree. It does not mean that the other ways could not have worked but what it does mean is that we know for a fact that her method did work. There is no question of that. The other ways you describe, maybe they would have worked but we don't know that they would have worked.
Her methods were effective.
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02-08-2013
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#70
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De puts the D back in D
Joined: | May 2007 |
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Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy
Depends on the how the comment was offered, but probably not. However, there's a rather wide difference between offering commentary on one's choice of attire and the comments seen in this video.
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Perfect example, on Yahoo.com there is a headline to a story about Sarah Jessica Parker wearing a coat and it says "Cookie monster wants his jacket back". Cyber bullying? To a degree I would have to say yes.
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02-08-2013
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#71
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2012 |
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Originally Posted by MonsterD
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Perfect example, on Yahoo.com there is a headline to a story about Sarah Jessica Parker wearing a coat and it says "Cookie monster wants his jacket back". Cyber bullying? To a degree I would have to say yes.
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Yup. We're drawing lines in the sand here to protect this cheerleader's ego.
Michael Irvin and Santa Claus should make videos like this to get Philly fans banned from watching home games live. They were treated way worse directly.
This girl was mocked for proudly representing an organization that Bears' fans hate. I would not have personally said those things about her bc it goes against my personal morals, but I'm disgusted that she's using "cyber bullying" as a means to get a bad photo of her taken down just because some people said mean stuff about her and she couldn't resist going out of her way to checking it out.
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02-08-2013
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#72
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Newo
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One thing I'd like to point out to people about the Packers cheerleaders. They aren't the Cowboys or any of the other teams professionals. They are literally Highschool and local college cheerleaders who volunteer to cheer for the team.
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02-09-2013
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#73
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Federal Agent
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Fort Hood |
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich
It didn't look like it to me. I believe that is if they are saying that, I just didn't see a real resemblance. Honestly, it looked like the photo was shot in the 1970's.
Still, people are entitled to their opinion. If they think she's ugly, then that's their opinion. People are going to say and do a lot worse to you in life.
And I know what cyber bullying is. This ain't it.
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I don't see what the big deal is... I don't agree with those fans, but don't think it's a big deal.
Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.
JMO
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02-09-2013
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#74
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Waitin' on the 6th
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rack Bauer

Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.
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Unreal.
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02-09-2013
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#75
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Maple Leaf
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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This is really...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rack Bauer
Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.
JMO
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...disturbing.
Bullying in its most basic format is an expression of insecurity where the bully only feels viable when he/she experts power and domination over another.
In an environment where they feel a lack of control they compensate by seeking the defenceless and regaining self confidence by stripping dignity from others.
Bullying is mean, debasing and in many cases devastating for years on the victims.
As I witness the behavior from co-workers, kids I coach, kids my wife teaches and sports parents in stands its been obvious to me has how messed up bullies are.
I wish bullying on no one. I hope people who condone or excuse the behavior will see how wrong it is and immediately denounce it.
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