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02-13-2013
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#31
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Originally Posted by gmoney112
Wait, you mean having a HOF TE and a WR who finally turned it on in the 2nd half of the season doesn't win you a Super Bowl?!?!?! I am shocked.
Show me one QB in the last 5 years who won 10 games a year and had no help from his roster. That is the most ignorant statement I have ever read on CZ. Get off your Romo hate-wagon and learn something about the game, son.
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the Romo haters like ufcrules and juke and gameover have no ability to see reality. Don't bother with them; nothing ANYONE could say would make a difference.
If GOD came down and said Romo was a great QB these guys would still say otherwise.
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02-13-2013
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#32
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Deadly Claws of Death
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Originally Posted by Gameover
Isn't Witten a future HOF?
Isn't Dez Bryant on his way to Pro Bowl greatness?
Alot of quarterbacks in this league could win ten games a year with this no help whatsoever roster.
There is plenty of untapped potential that Romo continuously leaves on the field.
The play caller did pretty good job of calling plays when Romo was hurt back in 2010 when he had John Kitna averaging 31.2 ppg and finishing with a 5-3 record.
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Who was throwing Witten & Dez the ball? Wasn't Laurent Robinson really good under Romo? How was he last year without Romo?
Sure, Romo will lose a few games each year. But he wins games the team has no business winning many more times than he loses the game the rest of the team has won IMO.
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02-13-2013
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#33
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Defender of the Star
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Originally Posted by Mansta54
That's because most of our fanbase is clueless and never played a down in their life.
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amen brother
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02-13-2013
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#34
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At the end of the day your QB is going to be put in a position that is uncomfortable no matter how good his Oline is. When you get deep into the playoffs and are playing against a great defensive line, they are going to get through to your QB. When that happens in Dallas, do you really have faith in Romo to throw the ball away, not throw off his back foot, make the right read, take a sack if necessary? I personally don't, especially in big games and Romo has not shown me otherwise. He makes the same dumb mistakes every single year.
We can talk about the defense and the oline all we want(And they both need improvement) but at the end of the day against Washington, they gave Romo a chance being down by 3 with over 3 minutes on the clock and all of our timeouts. Washington blitzed and Romo threw the ball to Murray without even thinking if there was a defender there or not. Keep in mind this was on first down too. He could have thrown the ball away or taken a sack and still had a good chance to lead his team down field to take the lead or tie.
Do we even need to talk about his other 2 interceptions where he had little to no pressure and just made horrible throws? Leading up to that game he was playing good, why did he have an epic meltdown game? Because the pressure was high, that's why.
Romo would need an unbelievable defense and Oline to take this team to the superbowl. They would have to overcompensate for his mistakes in big games.
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02-13-2013
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#35
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Originally Posted by ufcrules1
At the end of the day your QB is going to be put in a position that is uncomfortable no matter how good his Oline is. When you get deep into the playoffs and are playing against a great defensive line, they are going to get through to your QB. When that happens in Dallas, do you really have faith in Romo to throw the ball away, not throw off his back foot, make the right read, take a sack if necessary? I personally don't, especially in big games and Romo has not shown me otherwise. He makes the same dumb mistakes every single year.
[View Full Quote]We can talk about the defense and the oline all we want(And they both need improvement) but at the end of the day against Washington, they gave Romo a chance being down by 3 with over 3 minutes on the clock and all of our timeouts. Washington blitzed and Romo threw the ball to Murray without even thinking if there was a defender there or not. Keep in mind this was on first down too. He could have thrown the ball away or taken a sack and still had a good chance to lead his team down field to take the lead or tie.
Do we even need to talk about his other 2 interceptions where he had little to no pressure and just made horrible throws? Leading up to that game he was playing good, why did he have an epic meltdown game? Because the pressure was high, that's why.
Romo would need an unbelievable defense and Oline to take this team to the superbowl. They would have to overcompensate for his mistakes in big games.
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yawn.
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02-13-2013
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#36
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My belief is that of the OL were fixed, the occasional times Romo was harassed wouldn't be the same as now when he is constantly harassed.
Follow this.
Now he always seems to have someone on him. So the team needs to score thus he has to take risks.
If the team had a line that protected and allowed the offense to thrive, the premium might not be as critical on Romo and the offense to manufacture points late when it is risk big or lose.
Tony still makes boneheaded plays, but he is a very good quarterback that seems to do this on his own more than most.
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02-13-2013
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#37
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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl
Jon Machota @jonmachota
Troy Aikman on 105.3: Tony Romo can lead Cowboys to a Super Bowl: "He's a special player. Unfortunately not a lot of people recognize that."
Troy Aikman said he "marvels" at how Jerry Jones is able to keep calm after games. Said Jones was always the team's biggest supporter.
Troy Aikman on Cowboys: "There are some good coaches that left the building, there are some good coaches that just came into the building."
Troy Aikman: "I don’t view the coaching part of it as the reason why this team didn’t make it to the postseason." (via 105.3 The Fan)
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I agree with all 3 opinions from Aikman.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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02-13-2013
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#38
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Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
My belief is that of the OL were fixed, the occasional times Romo was harassed wouldn't be the same as now when he is constantly harassed.
Follow this.
Now he always seems to have someone on him. So the team needs to score thus he has to take risks.
If the team had a line that protected and allowed the offense to thrive, the premium might not be as critical on Romo and the offense to manufacture points late when it is risk big or lose.
Tony still makes boneheaded plays, but he is a very good quarterback that seems to do this on his own more than most.
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If you have constant pressure on a QB they will all make bone head plays. I saw Brees make quite a few this past season as well. It tends to happen when a QB is trying to force things to happen.
If the Cowboys can get to a point on offense where Tony is not having to create something out of nothing then we just may see an offense who is not up and down through out the game but instead a team who can attack on the ground and in the air. It starts with the guys up front.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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02-13-2013
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#39
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Senior Member
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What seems to be ignored by the great unwashed here is that there was a time this offense gave Romo time and he completed passing plays without the fear of losing blood of a limb. That was a few years ago.
Seems they ran off that offensive line.
No worries, they needed to be run off. They were getting old and ineffective.
The problem is they did not replace them with a competent offensive line.
I also believe we had better receivers then.
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02-13-2013
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#40
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Originally Posted by Muhast
I'll side with a highly respected HOF super bowl winning QB's thoughts on how a current QB plays over a fan on a message board anyday. No offense. There are plenty of knowledgeable fans on here, but let's be real and call it what it is. We love the game, and are passionate about it, but we aren't experts. Just saying.
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Sorry but not every football player knows what is going on in the locker room. Troy and Garret are tight. It's not that I'm not listening but I've seen other highly respected NFL guys say Garrett makes horrible game management decisions, etc. Troy also said good coaches just left..so why are they fired then? I take this stuff with a grain of salt because you never know if they picked a side. I agree with his Romo comments though. Doesn't mean those will end up being right either. The NFL landscape is littered with good, hard working, nice guys who never made it.
As I said in the past, I realistically acknowledge Romo's mistakes but think he is best for this team right now. Like the guy. I don't feel the same about Garrett from what I've seen in 6 years. So we will see what comes out in the wash.
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02-13-2013
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#41
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I'll take Troy's (of Roger's or Brady's, etc) opinion on Quarterback play as golden.
The further away from that subject he gets the value I place on his opinion. Not to say I may not agree, but I at least question it more.
For example, his observation on Dlineman would be met with a bit more skepticism than on QB...obviously.
BTW, this also applies to ex-NFL players commenting about other plays that did not play or coach their position. Just because they played a certain position does not make them an expert at all other positions as well.
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