Manhunt For Dorner Apparently Over?

[vta]

Originally Posted by Future

Sometimes drastic action is needed in order to expose corruption. If we take what he said as truth, then he obviously wasn't going to get the support he needed from those in charge.

It's not just that he was a whistle blower, its that he got fired because of it. While he acted alone, I don't think that his superiors or whoever are completely innocent here.

Yeah, murdering innocent people is a sure-fire way of pointing out police corruption. Works every time.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

With media world wide.
With the internet social circles.
With youtube videos that can go viral in a second.

There is NO EXCUSE for him killing innocent victims. You don't kill someone's child and fiance because you are mad at what you think they did to you.

There are other ways to expose the corruption...killing INNOCENT people is not one of them.

Even if you somehow decided you wanted to justify him killing some of the cops that treated him wrong or those in charge that treated him wrong...there is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent people just because they are related to someone you don't like.

I would like to see such cavalier attitudes if someone murdered your wife and child just because you did something bad to them.

THINK before you speak.

Thanks

I was trying to put together a similar post, but you did a better job, you nailed it.

[vta]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

With media world wide.
With the internet social circles.
With youtube videos that can go viral in a second.

There is NO EXCUSE for him killing innocent victims. You don't kill someone's child and fiance because you are mad at what you think they did to you.

There are other ways to expose the corruption...killing INNOCENT people is not one of them.

Even if you somehow decided you wanted to justify him killing some of the cops that treated him wrong or those in charge that treated him wrong...there is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent people just because they are related to someone you don't like.

I would like to see such cavalier attitudes if someone murdered your wife and child just because you did something bad to them.

THINK before you speak.

Well put.

[Future]

Originally Posted by vta

Yeah, murdering innocent people is a sure-fire way of pointing out police corruption. Works every time.

Would you have known as much about it had he not done so?

I'm not saying its right or condoning his actions. I'm just saying that when the people in charge are corrupt, drastic actions might be needed to expose them.

[speedkilz88]

Originally Posted by Future

Would you have known as much about it had he not done so?

I'm not saying its right or condoning his actions. I'm just saying that when the people in charge are corrupt, drastic actions might be needed to expose them.

That continues to sound like condoning to me and I don't think I'm the only one.

[vta]

Originally Posted by Future

Would you have known as much about it had he not done so?

I'm not saying its right or condoning his actions. I'm just saying that when the people in charge are corrupt, drastic actions might be needed to expose them.

Sure you are. That's why you've added a caveat.

As for me hearing, who cares? Is my hearing going to matter and somehow make something good from the awful things he did? If the clarion call is murdering people, I'd rather it not be heard. He lowered himself beneath their (LAPD) standards by doing what he did.

[gambit187]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

With media world wide.
With the internet social circles.
With youtube videos that can go viral in a second.

There is NO EXCUSE for him killing innocent victims. You don't kill someone's child and fiance because you are mad at what you think they did to you.

There are other ways to expose the corruption...killing INNOCENT people is not one of them.

Even if you somehow decided you wanted to justify him killing some of the cops that treated him wrong or those in charge that treated him wrong...there is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent people just because they are related to someone you don't like.

I would like to see such cavalier attitudes if someone murdered your wife and child just because you did something bad to them.

THINK before you speak.

Outstanding Post....I only wish that while his soul is rotting in hell, the people (if any) that caused his dumb actions sit there with him.

[Future]

Originally Posted by speedkilz88

That continues to sound like condoning to me and I don't think I'm the only one.

Originally Posted by vta

Sure you are. That's why you've added a caveat.

As for me hearing, who cares? Is my hearing going to matter and somehow make something good from the awful things he did? If the clarion call is murdering people, I'd rather it not be heard. He lowered himself beneath their (LAPD) standards by doing what he did.

There is a difference between understanding and condoning.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Future

I'm just saying that when the people in charge are corrupt, drastic actions might be needed to expose them.

As drastic as murdering innocent people?

Is that what you are saying?

If not, what are you saying?

[RastaRocket]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

As drastic as murdering innocent people?

Is that what you are saying?

If not, what are you saying?

That would be the drastic actions Dorner took. Or riots, there are all kinds of drastic things people do to expose corruption.

LA PD even shot up innocent people trying to kill the man who is accusing them of killing innocent people.

I don't agree with Dorner simply because two wrongs don't make a right, and he's insane. However, he isn't the only one in the wrong.

[ABQCOWBOY]

This goes back further then just 2007. This goes back to his days in the Navy. There is a lot more to this story then just this.


Bottom line here is that if you kill a cop or a cop's family, you are going to end up dead. It's how every law enforcement agency in this country works. It doesn't matter if you are in LA or NY. I will tell you this, here in New Mexico, if you kill a cop, you may as well forget about it. You are going to wind up dead and there is nothing at all that anybody can do about it.

Right, wrong? Doesn't really matter. This is how it is and that's not going to change.

There is a reason people don't go after families, not even organized crime.

The lesson here is don't do what this person did unless your goal is to be dead. That's just how it works.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by RastaRocket

That would be the drastic actions Dorner took. Or riots, there are all kinds of drastic things people do to expose corruption.

I haven't thought too long about it, but at the moment that is the dumbest, most ignorant conclusion to come to.

Hmmm, let's see, ... "I sense corruption, corruption is wrong, .. I think I will murder a few innocent people so I can expose this corruption".

Stupid.

Dorner was nothing more than a pyscopath.

[bigdnlaca]

It is a trip how everyone saying it is wrong that Dorner killed innocent people when some corrupt cops been doing this for many years and the public rarely hears about it.

Also, no one is talking about the cops who almost killed 3 people because of mistaken identity. Two women were injured from the shooting. I guess all PDs in California had a "fire at will" command if they think it is him.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

The lesson here is don't do what this person did unless your goal is to be dead. That's just how it works.

He is dead and gone, and will soon be forgotten, and everything he wanted to expose and change will continue because he was an idiot.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by bigdnlaca

It is a trip how everyone saying it is wrong that Dorner killed innocent people when some corrupt cops been doing this for many years and the public rarely hears about it.

Also, no one is talking about the cops who almost killed 3 people because of mistaken identity. Two women were injured from the shooting. I guess all PDs in California had a "fire at will" command if they think it is him.

This is exactly why you don't involve family. When a person's family is threatened, either directly or indirectly, rational thought can often be the first casualty. It's a mistake to drive anybody to this point and Law Enforcement is not above this. Nobody is. This isn't even about right or wrong. This is about human nature and when you threaten a person's family, this is what you see.

This is why you should never ever go to that length. All the rules go away.