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02-14-2013
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#31
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We got a hat. I want a ring.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeBeta
People on this board need to start doing basic math and not calling on an expert to explain simple stuff over and over
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Why? Does it personally hurt you if Adam is asked about something?
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02-14-2013
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#32
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Originally Posted by honyock
Some of that guaranteed money will be spread out over the life of the new contract. I don't see a $20M per year deal coming. Romo's cap hit for 2013 should be well under $10M. The problem comes, as ABQCowboy pointed out, later in the contract. The cap hits in 2016 and 2017 (if he signs a 5 year deal), will be pretty high if we decide to part ways with him.
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I get that but what I'm saying is that signing him long term continues the cycle of bad contracts. The bubble gonna burst. As far is tony is concerned I rather not restructure And bite the bulllet now. My opinion of course.
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02-14-2013
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#33
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Originally Posted by Hoofbite
We talking about Miles Austin?
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Rat.
The Austin deal is great - it is already at the point where he costs less to cut than keep. We owe like 4.5 or so in SB against the cap for him. We've got him for the next two years at little over 12 mill total. In that context, 6 mill a year is decent for a guy who was in the top 25 in receiving yards last year
Obviously you want more out of him, but what he's getting over the next few years isn't ridiculous.
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02-14-2013
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#34
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Originally Posted by Vinnie2u
So now Romo is worth 20-25 mil a year. That's like 20% of the salary cap. We not talking Brady or Manning here folks.
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20 mill guaranteed is not the same about 20-25 mill a year.
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02-14-2013
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#35
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I didn't realize you could restructure a deal so soon after signing one. Can you restructure a deal more than once?
You can't spell bias without BS.
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02-14-2013
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#36
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A Work in Progress
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Originally Posted by Vinnie2u
I get that but what I'm saying is that signing him long term continues the cycle of bad contracts. The bubble gonna burst. As far is tony is concerned I rather not restructure And bite the bulllet now. My opinion of course.
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You're right about the history of bad contracts, but in this case, I'd say it's different. Romo is no Tom Brady, true, but he is very good, and replacing him won't be easy, unless we hit on a draft pick. He's worth a big contract simply because right now we don't have a viable replacement option. It's not like we have Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings. Now, we need to find one in the next couple of years, but no guarantees. And if we don't, well, then we join the list of teams looking for their franchise QB. It's a tough call, but I say at this point you don't have much choice than to give him an extension.
There's always more to the story.
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02-14-2013
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#37
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Well, the good news is Jerry needs to sign Romo to fix the cap problem for next season, and Romo will want to sign a contract to avoid getting franchised a time or two and then hit the open market at 34 or 35. I'm sure they will get a deal done.
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02-14-2013
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy40
I didn't realize you could restructure a deal so soon after signing one. Can you restructure a deal more than once?
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You can restructure every year.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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02-14-2013
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#39
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Originally Posted by mortboy
The Cowboys will restructure Carr’s contract, which will save about $10.5 million in space, and can look to rework the deals of DeMarcus Ware and Jason Witten, which would create about $6.5 million in space. A new deal for Romo would likely cut his $16.8 million salary-cap figure in half.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...alks-this-week
Just realized that this article was from yesterday. Hope it isn't a duplicate on here. Sorry if it is.
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expect big dead money cap hits on Ware and Witten down road.
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02-14-2013
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#40
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When does the NFL get new tv contracts? Any guess on how big the increase will be?
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02-14-2013
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#41
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Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
What this means is that we are screwed. Our cap is going to be in horrible shape in a couple of seasons. Welcome back to 2000 if this is true.
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Or we just keep pushing it into the future as we have been. In actual economics, it would be a terrible move, but it seems that in Salary-cap-onomics, it might work. Maybe the parallels to real world budgets and such just don't exist.
We've always looked at the Redskins and thoer BS that they'd have to pay the piper eventually, and now it would look like we'll "be in horrible shape in a couple of seasons" but the truth is, we are in horrible shape right now... and working our way out of it.
There is a common belief that eventually it will catch up to us, and I'm one that always thought that was the case. I am starting to think that the yearly re-shuffling will just keep going on indefinitely. Some years, we'll have more and some less, but I think I am finally realizing that the Cowboys may be able put cap hell off indefinitely after all.
Yeah, we'll hit cap purgatory (like this year), but there seem to be ways to avoid an all out apocalypse.
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02-14-2013
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dogberry
When does the NFL get new tv contracts? Any guess on how big the increase will be?
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The new tv contracts begin in 2014 - and I believe they are staggered, so the increase in revenue rolls in year by year, not a huge increase at once.
The NFL has projected a pretty flat salary cap through 2015. Starting in 2016, the estimates that keep getting tossed out are that the cap will rise maybe in the 4-5% per year range. So the cap will grow steadily but not dramatically, probably by around $5-6 million or so per year early on.
The bigger increase in benefits will start earlier - health insurance, pensions, injury protection fees, etc. But the cap increases, according to the league, will be slower and more incremental.
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02-14-2013
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik_H
Or we just keep pushing it into the future as we have been. In actual economics, it would be a terrible move, but it seems that in Salary-cap-onomics, it might work. Maybe the parallels to real world budgets and such just don't exist.
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That is actually not true in "actual economics."
If I can pay a debt in the future instead of immediately without incurring any interest, that is a good move. Especially when any increase in the cap makes it proportionally LESS money.
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02-14-2013
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#44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeBeta
That is actually not true in "actual economics."
If I can pay a debt in the future instead of immediately without incurring any interest, that is a good move. Especially when any increase in the cap makes it proportionally LESS money.
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Right. Future money is worth less than money today. You actually save money in this instance that's equal to the rate of inflation. The salary cap doesn't adjust for it so it's generally smart to push money into future years, to an extent of course.
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02-15-2013
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinnie2u
I get that but what I'm saying is that signing him long term continues the cycle of bad contracts. The bubble gonna burst. As far is tony is concerned I rather not restructure And bite the bulllet now. My opinion of course.
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I'm not sure if I would consider a qb of Romo's ability part of that bad cycle of contracts. A lot of those bad contracts came because of players we couldn't afford to give up on that we saw 1 or 2 good consecutive years from. Romo has been better than that. He's not one of these 1 good year and your out guys.
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