The Proof Is In The Pudding: There Never Was Any Stripping of PlayCalling!

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by zack

No, I don't know if there is a problem or disagreement and I can only go by what I hear. But, you didn't think that Garrett seemed a bit uncomfortable about answering questions the recent press conference?

Just as much as they say there are no leaders on this team. I think that is a topic that gets way overblown. Unless you are in practice, in the huddle, locker room, no outside person knows. If anyone has any remote football experience, you would know this.

But, what I said after the fact are my feelings about this offense under his command, period. Tell me you are happy with the direction of this offense? All I'm saying is that I will be highly disappointed if Garrett continues to call the plays and runs this very same offense next year. I am ready for some tweaks. But in the end I also know I can't change a damn thing about it....

[View Full Quote]But I'm sick of seeing QB's of lesser talent at the end of the SB, getting an MVP, hoisting the Lombardi when it could be Romo and the Dallas Cowboys.

I think the offense lacked something. At times it was pretty potent. At times it was pretty vanilla and impotent. And I would say it appears in many ways that Red doesnt seem to be all that great at mixing things up and keeping the opposing D off balance. Is it Red, or is it the OL issues? Or something else?

Like most, I would like to see some changes on offense. If nothing else, getting the running game going is essential.

I didnt really get the impression that Garrett was uncomfortable at his PC. What I heard was a guy speak who sounded like he was confident about the choices HE has made this off season. He sounded like HE knew why HE wanted to make the changes. He sounded like a guy that knew what he was talking about. He answered the questions even tho the mediots say otherwise. He just didnt answer them the way they wanted him to. So in essence he didnt play their game. All of the mediot spin for weeks has been about him being stripped of play calling and Jerry is in charge making all the moves. Jason basically didnt give that stuff any more attention than one would give to a mere mosquito. Why would acknowledge such nonsense as if it even has a hint of credibility?

Once again, if you look at what is said by those who are part of whats happening rather than the mediot speculative fantasizers, the mediot fantasy is exposed for being what is.

There is no chaos at VR. No puppets. No soap opera. But there is a 8-8 football team that needs to get better. And it sounds to me like the staff is working on that in a functional way and as a fan I hope we get the desired results!

[noshame]

Thank Heavens in a few weeks the Easter Bunny will be here with all kinds of candy and stuff.

Really, Micky said so.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Exactly.

And to WPB... You really believe that Jason fired his brother on his own? And before you cite what Jason said that it was some kind of career advancement, remember that he took a demotion to go to Tampa and you can bet a cut in pay as well.

For that matter, why would we even be discussing any changes at all right now if Jerry weren't pushing for it? Jason sat there and told us how wonderful our offense was, and he put himself right there with Payton and McCarthy as a head coach/playcaller. Never mind that the facts do not support that whatsoever. I guess you believe him on that, too?

What I don't understand is why this upsets you so much. Yes, Jerry is the one making these changes. I for one and glad that he is.

Im all for changes if it improves things.

But, where did this story of Jason firing his brother come from? You actually believe that was the case? If you just sit back and think about it, it makes no sense from any perspective.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

But, where did this story of Jason firing his brother come from? You actually believe that was the case? If you just sit back and think about it, it makes no sense from any perspective.

You're right, it doesn't make sense that Jason did it. So it was someone else who kicked him out, right?

Or are you saying he willingly left for a lesser position?

[blindzebra]

Someone explain how going from TE coach to WR coach is a demotion?

At worst it is a parallel move. And if your goal is to advance to say OC the more facets of offence you have coached the better.

Funny how snippets of quotes by known exaggerators is taken as truth but accurate transcripts of the full quote is spin control.

[Erik_H]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Someone explain how going from TE coach to WR coach is a demotion?

At worst it is a parallel move. And if your goal is to advance to say OC the more facets of offence you have coached the better.

Funny how snippets of quotes by known exaggerators is taken as truth but accurate transcripts of the full quote is spin control.

Funny, I was just about to bring this up. TE to WR is a lateral move. HOwever, I think WBP might be referring to the "passing game coordinator" title. BUt come on. How many passing game coordinators are there in the league? We all know that was a BS title. Having it attached to the Brother of the HC was a mistake and it's a good thing that it's gone.

Kinda hard to get the same job when part of your last position was semi imaginary, so including the "Passing Game Coordinator" job as a requirement for a future postion to be considered lateral is a bit silly.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Someone explain how going from TE coach to WR coach is a demotion?

He was also passing game coordinator. Is he that at Tampa?

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

He was also passing game coordinator. Is he that at Tampa?

You and I both know that is a title and not an actual job description...but whatever keep the agenda alive.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

You and I both know that is a title and not an actual job description...but whatever keep the agenda alive.

I don't believe that's true at all. I've heard that Callahan sat in on the run game meetings and not the pass game ones because he was... Drumroll... Run game coordinator. Why even have the title at all if they don't do anything extra?

Now the "assistant head coach" title... That's probably pretty meaningless as far as actual responsibility goes.

And the agenda word is so overused. What exactly is my agenda, figuring out what is really happening rather than accepting what Baghdad Mickey tells me? I've already said I'm for these changes. You seem to have more of an agenda, which is proving that Jerry just sat back and Garrett did all this on his own.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I don't believe that's true at all. I've heard that Callahan sat in on the run game meetings and not the pass game ones because he was... Drumroll... Run game coordinator. Why even have the title at all if they don't do anything extra?

Now the "assistant head coach" title... That's probably pretty meaningless as far as actual responsibility goes.

And the agenda word is so overused. What exactly is my agenda, figuring out what is really happening rather than accepting what Baghdad Mickey tells me? I've already said I'm for these changes. You seem to have more of an agenda, which is proving that Jerry just sat back and Garrett did all this on his own.

Callahan's title is OC/OL.

So in the passing game meetings you had Robinson Ast HC/WR, Wilson QB, Garrett TE/OGC and Garrett HC.

Hmmmm...so the 3rd ranking guy in the meeting had additional responsibilities?

Ok

[Chocolate Lab]

Callahan is the run game coordinator. John was the pass game coordinator. Maybe you didn't realize that.

Not sure why that's so , but suit yourself.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

So, you've made a conscious choice to believe a purely speculative phantasmic hallucination rather than objectively look at the facts and think for yourself?

Ok, I get it.

and you choose to slurp up whatever is said by so called 'official sources'

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I don't believe that's true at all. I've heard that Callahan sat in on the run game meetings and not the pass game ones because he was... Drumroll... Run game coordinator. Why even have the title at all if they don't do anything extra?

Maybe your source is feeding you wrong information.

Why would Callahan sit out of the pass game meetings during the game plan preparations?

He does coach the OL too and has that title as the OL coach. Last time I checked pass protections are pretty darn important in the passing game. It would be incredibly silly to install the passing game during the game plan preparations without any input or even Callahan not even in those meetings.

Callahan said it multiple times that it was a collaborative effort in regards to game plan and play calling in his interview on Thursday. The entire staff knows what plays to expect to be called in all situations because that is part of the game planning process. He even went as far as saying that they don't do anything different than any other team in the league as far a game planning goes.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Someone explain how going from TE coach to WR coach is a demotion?

At worst it is a parallel move. And if your goal is to advance to say OC the more facets of offence you have coached the better.

Funny how snippets of quotes by known exaggerators is taken as truth but accurate transcripts of the full quote is spin control.

BINGO!

Originally Posted by Erik_H

Funny, I was just about to bring this up. TE to WR is a lateral move. HOwever, I think WBP might be referring to the "passing game coordinator" title. BUt come on. How many passing game coordinators are there in the league? We all know that was a BS title. Having it attached to the Brother of the HC was a mistake and it's a good thing that it's gone.

Kinda hard to get the same job when part of your last position was semi imaginary, so including the "Passing Game Coordinator" job as a requirement for a future postion to be considered lateral is a bit silly.

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

He was also passing game coordinator. Is he that at Tampa?

Where other than in Dallas does that position exist? Now that John is gone, was that position filled?

Originally Posted by blindzebra

You and I both know that is a title and not an actual job description...but whatever keep the agenda alive.

Yep, whatever keeps the fantasy fueled is believable.

[Bluestang]

BTW, Garrett has done away with the passing game coordinator and running game coordinator titles.

They no longer exist with this staff.