Some interesting Broaddus tweets FWIW

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by newlander

.....and here is why: his teammates at Bama were OVERWHELMING. Physically, athletically and in EVERY way they dominated. In the pros his teammates will be very good but they won't dominate their opponent like Fluker and Warmack and Co. did...just not going to happen. Barret is solid IMO....likely a 3rd or 4th rounder, but his lack of athletecism and power at the point of attack makes him average overall IMO.

The real why is laziness.

I saw a lot of Bama football this year and saw the LSU game on youtube where I watched every snap on offense focused on the great Bama OL. I watched most of those snaps 2 and 3 times.

This wasn't some final week after Barrett was again injured.

And Verne was talking up Jones frequently which is silly when the other Bama OL outplayed him easily. They had tougher guys to block and when they made blocks they made them with explosion and domination quite frequently. Barrett generally did enough to keep his QB clean and made lanes for RBs. But he relied on technique to wall off SEC defenders and to buy his QB time. Other Bama OL punished defenders. Guys like Richardson and Floyd where never 1 on 1 with Barrett Jones (in 2012). He always had help when he faced them in 2012.

I am willing to change my opinion if someone has all this tape from 2011 to present. But I will trust my eyes over collegiate awards,

Barrett Jones was still an outstanding SEC OC. Much like Ben Jones.

Ben Jones went in round 4 last year.

Barrett Jones has more experience along the line and probably goes about 20 picks higher.

I understand fans want to improve this OL terribly but they tend to go goofy with suggestions to do so. This time last year virtually every board member swore DeCastro was a top 10 pick and the best OG prospect they've ever seen. He was drafted 24....

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by jterrell

The real why is laziness.

I saw a lot of Bama football this year and saw the LSU game on youtube where I watched every snap on offense focused on the great Bama OL. I watched most of those snaps 2 and 3 times.

This wasn't some final week after Barrett was again injured.

And Verne was talking up Jones frequently which is silly when the other Bama OL outplayed him easily. They had tougher guys to block and when they made blocks they made them with explosion and domination quite frequently. Barrett generally did enough to keep his QB clean and made lanes for RBs. But he relied on technique to wall off SEC defenders and to buy his QB time. Other Bama OL punished defenders. Guys like Richardson and Floyd where never 1 on 1 with Barrett Jones (in 2012). He always had help when he faced them in 2012.

[View Full Quote]I am willing to change my opinion if someone has all this tape from 2011 to present. But I will trust my eyes over collegiate awards,

Barrett Jones was still an outstanding SEC OC. Much like Ben Jones.

Ben Jones went in round 4 last year.

Barrett Jones has more experience along the line and probably goes about 20 picks higher.

I understand fans want to improve this OL terribly but they tend to go goofy with suggestions to do so. This time last year virtually every board member swore DeCastro was a top 10 pick and the best OG prospect they've ever seen. He was drafted 24....

Fans/media opinions tend to be heavily swayed by the announcers.

I watch a lot of games on Tivo without the sound. Sometimes when I read multiple fans/media proclaiming something that was much different than what I saw, I go back and watch with the sound on. It almost always turns out that the theme of the announcers was just regurgitated by the fans/media.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Maybe they don't like Jones' injury.

Or maybe they just think he's one of those guys who is great in college but not talented enough to be that good in the pros. It's very possible.

Or maybe it's a smokescreen.

I think some teams don't like the idea of him getting in the face of his QB. I mean, imagine if he were on the Cowboys and he did that with Romo. That would not go over very well.

[Chocolate Lab]

I think it's more what jt and newlander said. The guy is talked up a lot for his intelligence and his ability to play different positions, but in the pros that won't matter a bit if he doesn't have the physical ability to be good at the next level.

And I agree with those posters on his ability. Not saying he can't be a good player, but he seems like a guy who pro scouts don't like nearly as much as the college announcers and the internet draft gurus. Every year there are guys just like him.

[burmafrd]

I think he is being put in the area of jack of all trades master of none

really GOOD guy to have as depth since he can play virtually any position on the line but not a top player at any single position

[Macnalty]

Originally Posted by jterrell

The real why is laziness.

I saw a lot of Bama football this year and saw the LSU game on youtube where I watched every snap on offense focused on the great Bama OL. I watched most of those snaps 2 and 3 times.

This wasn't some final week after Barrett was again injured.

And Verne was talking up Jones frequently which is silly when the other Bama OL outplayed him easily. They had tougher guys to block and when they made blocks they made them with explosion and domination quite frequently. Barrett generally did enough to keep his QB clean and made lanes for RBs. But he relied on technique to wall off SEC defenders and to buy his QB time. Other Bama OL punished defenders. Guys like Richardson and Floyd where never 1 on 1 with Barrett Jones (in 2012). He always had help when he faced them in 2012.

[View Full Quote]I am willing to change my opinion if someone has all this tape from 2011 to present. But I will trust my eyes over collegiate awards,

Barrett Jones was still an outstanding SEC OC. Much like Ben Jones.

Ben Jones went in round 4 last year.

Barrett Jones has more experience along the line and probably goes about 20 picks higher.

I understand fans want to improve this OL terribly but they tend to go goofy with suggestions to do so. This time last year virtually every board member swore DeCastro was a top 10 pick and the best OG prospect they've ever seen. He was drafted 24....

I should say more but instead, Go Cowboys.....

[RS12]

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks
RT @RDSCT: thoughts on Barrett Jones? 1st or 2nd round talent?> No and no…I thought he was a mid-round guy on tape. 3rd at earliest for me.
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[jnday]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I think he is being put in the area of jack of all trades master of none

really GOOD guy to have as depth since he can play virtually any position on the line but not a top player at any single position

I made this exact point a couple of months ago in a thread and was laughed at. Funny how things change.

[HoosierCowboy]

Barret Jones could be an exceptional pro center if healthy--he's smart and athletic enough to lead the line like he did at Bama--I might take him at 2 but would jump on him in the third round

[Future]

Originally Posted by HoosierCowboy

Barret Jones could be an exceptional pro center if healthy--he's smart and athletic enough to lead the line like he did at Bama--I might take him at 2 but would jump on him in the third round

Agreed. He might not be a mauling guard, but that doesn't mean he can't be a very good player.

[burmafrd]

I agree that in the Pros his best position is probably Center. If we could get Warmack or Cooper in the 1st and Jones in the 3rd that would be two positions immediately upgraded right there.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I agree that in the Pros his best position is probably Center. If we could get Warmack or Cooper in the 1st and Jones in the 3rd that would be two positions immediately upgraded right there.

Add Kwan Short in the 2nd and Swearinger in the 4th and...boom!

[RS12]

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
What I keep hearing on 2013 draft class -- bottom of the first round is the sweet spot. Few guys with Top 10 grades, tons w/low-1 grades.
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