ST: Media puts the wrong Cowboys suspect under microscope

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by Future

Nice

Only thing I can think of is WR, if you include the RW trade.

The Roy11 deal was certainly a debacle. What we gave versus what we got.

Thank goodness it didn't stop us from drafting Dez in 2010. And its those two moves in concert, along with the Carr & Claiborne moves of this past offseason that fuel this cry.

But if you look at it carefully those moves (Dez, Carr & Claiborne) were very legitimate needs. And today we're certainly not overstocked there.

I think we all know that if Jerry had spent the those picks/$ differently that the same accusation could be made about ignoring other positions. Shoot safety, by comparison is STILL being ignored.

I certainly respect the opinions that think we could have flip-flopped the decisions - spending the big picks & $ at O-line and the lesser at WR, CB, LB etc. But its certainly no guarantee we'd be better off, just different.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by Erik_H

Not only is it a single event, it also doesn't fit the argument of a position that we didn't need. We had Carr. That's it. Scandrick is no outside starter and if ANYONE even believes Jenkins was a possibility for a second, they are not paying attention. Not only was he hurt, it had been made abundantly clear that we'd have him for 2012 and that would be it. Last year was the PERFECT time to jump at a top flight CB. You know you have Jenkins for one year and one year only and that covers you for Claiborne rookie growing pains if needed. Then we have a guy ready to go next year.

Turns out Jenkins was unable to play a good chunk of the year due to lingering injuries so we needed Claiborne even more.

Agreed. I get that some would've used the picks differently but I suspect we'd just have similar weaknesses in other areas.

I also get that its just natural for some to paint every shortcoming of this team as somehow this foolish blunder by our completely incompetent GM.

[CoCo]

Erik,

BTW, Just took a moment to review your "Gosselin Article Dart Board."

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by CoCo

So which positions do you believe have been overemphasized?

You should ask a better question: Which positions have chronically underperformed over the last 5 years?


THAT is where a GOOD GM should put his efforts. A very WEAK position tends to pull others down as well.

[Erik_H]

Originally Posted by CoCo

Agreed. I get that some would've used the picks differently but I suspect we'd just have similar weaknesses in other areas.

I also get that its just natural for some to paint every shortcoming of this team as somehow this foolish blunder by our completely incompetent GM.

That's exactly right. Yes it hurts that we didn't have 2nd rounder last year, but I think we are more solid than we have been in decades at the CB spot.

The problem hasn't been NOT using draft picks on the OL, it's been missing on the OL picks we make. We should have been able to hit in the 3rd and 4th rounds. We've made those picks and missed. Yes that is JJ's fault in part because he's the GM. But I blame the scouts in many of these cases. I don't even know if scouts have been let go because of some of these choices, but I think they should have been.

Drafting flashy players like Claiborne and Dez is not the problem. Choosing guys like Marten, Brewster, Peterman (and now Free) and probably Arkin is the problem.

Thanks for the compliment on the dartboard btw

[burmafrd]

I just wish we would hit on an O line pick SOMEWHERE. Its been 10 years since we picked one that hit besides Tyron and he was a no brainer.

I look at the Raiders and as screwed up as they are they still manage to hit on some O line guys. Sure they blew it on Gallery but at least they got some good years from him as a guard. Then they take a flyer on Veldheer (who I admit was a pet cat of mine) and he looks like he will be a franchise LT.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by CoCo

So which positions do you believe have been overemphasized?

Originally Posted by burmafrd

You should ask a better question: Which positions have chronically underperformed over the last 5 years?


THAT is where a GOOD GM should put his efforts. A very WEAK position tends to pull others down as well.

I have no problem acknowledging that our O-line has been woeful for two years and there were definitely cracks showing in the foundation for a couple years before that. No one disagrees with that.

The point, as you well know, is that you can't spend your resources twice. I've asked you twice for what you'd have done differently. I get it. Its a hard question. Because we don't really have areas on the team that have been overemphasized.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by Erik_H

That's exactly right. Yes it hurts that we didn't have 2nd rounder last year, but I think we are more solid than we have been in decades at the CB spot.

The problem hasn't been NOT using draft picks on the OL, it's been missing on the OL picks we make. We should have been able to hit in the 3rd and 4th rounds. We've made those picks and missed. Yes that is JJ's fault in part because he's the GM. But I blame the scouts in many of these cases. I don't even know if scouts have been let go because of some of these choices, but I think they should have been.

Drafting flashy players like Claiborne and Dez is not the problem. Choosing guys like Marten, Brewster, Peterman (and now Free) and probably Arkin is the problem.

Thanks for the compliment on the dartboard btw

Agreed.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by CoCo

I have no problem acknowledging that our O-line has been woeful for two years and there were definitely cracks showing in the foundation for a couple years before that. No one disagrees with that.

The point, as you well know, is that you can't spend your resources twice. I've asked you twice for what you'd have done differently. I get it. Its a hard question. Because we don't really have areas on the team that have been overemphasized.

Well lets see: Trade up to get Unger; make OL more of a priority; get one good OG for the price of two JAGS. I could go on but you really are lost on this one.

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Well lets see: Trade up to get Unger; make OL more of a priority; get one good OG for the price of two JAGS. I could go on but you really are lost on this one.

In order to "go on" you have to start first with some good responses. You haven't.

"Make O-line more of a priority" works nicely because you don't actually forego any of the good players we actually spent our picks on.

Nevermind. You just want to gripe. I'll get out of your way.

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by kristie

the only thing i saw with jason garrett in that press conference was how unemotional he was.

so he gave his best impersonation of Coach Landry......who was always stoic, matter of fact, and very unemotional in interviews.

Also, look at Belichek, he too shows almost no emotion in interviews. He is just there, monotone and giving you nothing to go by.