Stephen Jones: ‘Too many schemes’ caused 'Boys to replace Rob Ryan with Monte Kiffin

[Clove]

bottom line, there was no pressure on the quarterback. roll out any scheme you want, if you can't get to the quarterback , it's useless.

[Vinnie2u]

Originally Posted by Clove

bottom line, there was no pressure on the quarterback. roll out any scheme you want, if you can't get to the quarterback , it's useless.

Watching a one legged RG3 Standing back there with a clean uniform was a back breaker..

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Clove

bottom line, there was no pressure on the quarterback. roll out any scheme you want, if you can't get to the quarterback , it's useless.

That's what it is right there. This simplified scheme to account for the rare year where you have a ton of injuries on one side of the ball doesn't fly.

You'll never convince me the 4-3 is a better scheme. Last I checked the Super Bowl was played with two 3-4 defenses. They must have missed the memo on this keep it simple, go 4-3 idea.

The GM talked of being uncomfortable this offseason. Like every offseason. He's not about to change himself. His son is going nowhere. He's not ready yet to can the head coach, he's too comfortable with him. So Rob, you're up. You're the problem this year. We'll even make another cosmetic change of play caller on offense.

Wake me up when there's real change and our problems are actually being addressed.

[Wolfpack]

How do most team manage the Next Man Up thing and not here?

The pattern might be that the TC guys get cut to keep the development long shots. Thus you have no real depth and have to bring in a Street guy to actually play while the depth guys ride the pine cause they are pet cats? Its like the whole keeping 3 kickers awhile ago. Just silly.

How does Erin Simms roll in and none of the guys on the squad from TC can? Why not bring Erin in during TC if he was the guy? Why have Dan Conner on the team if he cant start?

[T-RO]

We are going backwards. Our defense might have been top ten next year. Not now.

Absolutely horrific decision-making once again at Valley Ranch.

Too many schemes? No, too few healthy bodies.

[Little Jr]

I have no problem with firing rob. I agree his schemes was questionable at times. I just don't get where the accountability on the offense side of the ball?

[JerryFan]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

Yet has won a SB. I tend to agree with a statement Kiffin made, 3-4/4-3 there are 11 guys on defense and the key is getting them to play as a 1. Play hard, smart and fast.

I like Rob but my biggest complaint was how often he would use 3 man rushes. You get a team in a sure passing situation and we turn around and rush 3? Other teams will put you in a passing situation and then get after the QB we didn't we sat back and allowed QB's all day to find the open man.

I agree 100%. It would drive me nuts and then wonder why our DB'S didn't have a lot of INT's. He'd give the qb a perfect comfy pocket to throw on damn near anything longer then 3rd and 10.

[Joe Rod]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

More than a month after the organization tossed Ryan to the curb and brought Kiffin into the fold, Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones said the change that was made was a “tough decision.”

But he also added it was made with long-term considerations in mind.

“I think Rob is a very smart guy,” Jones said. “His schemes are very sound. There are a lot of schemes. That becomes a question. We made a tough decision. We felt like too many schemes can cause problems regardless of how good they are and how sound they are. If there is more than the players can digest in this day and time – as you don’t keep players for long, they move on and you have injuries – you just had to make a decision. And we made a tough one.”

Jones’ comment came after he was asked if the simplicity of Kiffin’s 4-3 scheme was an attractive selling point when they contemplated hiring him.

[View Full Quote]Ryan attempted to streamline his playbook and later admitted that he may have tried to install too many schemes before the Cowboys could establish a comfort level with the most basic ones.

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/20...h-kiffin.html/

If they truly feel that way, then why didn't they feel that way after watching Wade Phillips have to "simplify" the defense virtually every year when he was here in-season? Free Agency and injuries have been commonplace for decades, was it magically supposed to change because they brought in Rob Ryan and more complex schemes?

The beauty of the 3-4 is the confusion it can bring to offenses, yet Rob Ryan is at fault for making the defense have different schemes like other successful 3-4 defenses. Seems like they just wasted a few years.

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by Joe Rod

If they truly feel that way, then why didn't they feel that way after watching Wade Phillips have to "simplify" the defense virtually every year when he was here in-season? Free Agency and injuries have been commonplace for decades, was it magically supposed to change because they brought in Rob Ryan and more complex schemes?

The beauty of the 3-4 is the confusion it can bring to offenses, yet Rob Ryan is at fault for making the defense have different schemes like other successful 3-4 defenses. Seems like they just wasted a few years.

To Jerry's credit, the CBA was renewed after Rob had been hired.

The new CBA rules really limit practice time. As Garrett mentioned in the press conference, they essentially felt with less practice time and hitting allowed, it has created more injuries and thus you need players who can step right in and it's too difficult, from their perspective, to do in a complex scheme.

I believe there was much more to getting rid of Ryan than just too many and too complex schemes. But, since day 1 Garrett has put a major focus on players being able to come right into the game and play. It's even been mentioned that he doesn't refer to anybody as a 'backup.' So I can believe their concerns about injuries and how to best combat them. Whether it works or not is another question.






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[Double Trouble]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

“I think Rob is a very smart guy,” Jones said. “His schemes are very sound. There are a lot of schemes. That becomes a question. We made a tough decision. We felt like too many schemes can cause problems regardless of how good they are and how sound they are. If there is more than the players can digest in this day and time – as you don’t keep players for long, they move on and you have injuries – you just had to make a decision. And we made a tough one.”

Stephen Jones has such vast and deep experience with NFL defenses, it's clear that he's more than qualified to make such a call.

We're fortunate to have him to go to war against people like Mike Shanahan and Jerry Reese.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Double Trouble

Stephen Jones has such vast and deep experience with NFL defenses, it's clear that he's more than qualified to make such a call.

We're fortunate to have him to go to war against people like Mike Shanahan and Jerry Reese.

Sadly, that's the hand we've been dealt.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Double Trouble

Stephen Jones has such vast and deep experience with NFL defenses, it's clear that he's more than qualified to make such a call.

You think it was SJ's call?

[Doomsday101]

Makes no difference as to the why Rob was fired. Seldom in the NFL are HC or organizations going to rip a guy after they fire him. They will compliment them and talk about a new direction or something of that nature. People getting worked up over the reason why must not follow the NFL closely.

I don't blame Ryan for the season but I can't say I was impressed by him either. I expected a much more aggressive defense and that is not what he delivered.

[Woods]

Originally Posted by Idgit

You think it was SJ's call?

As cynical as I can be at times, I don't see this being SJ's call.

[big dog cowboy]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

I believe there was much more to getting rid of Ryan than just too many and too complex schemes.

Way more than we know and will ever be made public.