An Objective Mediot Who Actually Gets It

[Chuck 54]

Pumping sunshine or pumping Jerry/Jason negativity; those seem to be the primary motives of many media and fan posters...very few posts about the team and players/coaching staff don't become inundated with these themes.

This is the annual time of hope or "nothing will ever change under Jerry Jones" cynicism. I choose to be hopeful about all changes and additions, knowing that no one's words mean anything and all changes mean nothing unless the team WINS.

[Joe Rod]

These coaching hires can be good ones, but truthfully, it will not matter much if Dallas has the same Safety/D-line play and the injuries they had in 2012. One of Kiffen's biggest issues at USC was lack of talent lining up against those zone read fast paced offenses, meanwhile his nemesis just signed on as coach of the Eagles and the Redskins run a Zone Read style.

If Dallas lines up that same defensive cast that they had after mid-season last year (gimpy D-Ware, no Sean Lee, no Bruce Carter, no Barry Church, no Jay Ratliff), then that simplified defense is still going to get torched.

[HoosierCowboy]

excellent article--people need to quit respouting the garbage they hear in the media about how powerless Garrett is--it's the same folks who rant about Romo being the problem

[CCBoy]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

I read your posts as i do many people. This is the usual comment you make.

Maybe you'd be better served to discuss the team and not what other people think. Because you continually make remarks about other fans of this team not seeing it the way you do.

If you are not married, never ever try that my friend. If you think this site is sketchy in regard to agreeing, then take a wife and come back here for a break.

(coughing on the on-the-spot correcton?)

One directed at objectivity, and the other towards submission...

[CCBoy]

Originally Posted by HoosierCowboy

excellent article--people need to quit respouting the garbage they hear in the media about how powerless Garrett is--it's the same folks who rant about Romo being the problem

A very good insight...and those aren't dependent upon a ring tapping or burn barrel return of support of 'proper' way to see things.

I bet the real beliefs of those referred to, would box some ears if taken to THEM as some above have spouted in the new coaching additions and labeled their presence as 'Uncle Tomming.'

[The Quest for Six]

Sounds like he's drinking the Jerry Jones koolaid..

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by The Quest for Six

Sounds like he's drinking the Jerry Jones koolaid..

you notice those defending him are just about all addicted to that particular beverage.

[HoustonFrog]

There are two things that need to be weeded out here

1) This whole notion of "mediots" is just becoming annoying. Hey, get this, the team used to be considered the model franchise for about 30 years and then in the last 2 decades things have gone ugly and we have bungled FA signings, Jerry doing his thing, 1 playoff win and enough drama to keep All My Children on the air. These media people are at Valley Ranch. They have more connections than 90% of us here. So please stop acting like that anyone who says something bad about the Cowboys has lost perspective when the team has done nothing and has been a circus for well over a decade now. Maybe "Garrett is powerless" comes up because all other coaches..even Parcells...ended up being powerless and left. What has happened to change that? Wake up. It's not a novel aspect of being with the Cowboys.

2) Well written article and I'm glad the coaches are excited BUT you also have to take these things as they are..puff pieces. Of course Dooley is excited. No one was calling him and he was sitting on his couch but the Cowboys wanted him. It's special because he never expected a job offer. Kiffin just had a horrible run at USC and is 72...who was beating down his door? Listen, I like theses guys enthusiasm. I hope they do a better job than Garrett to get us farther than these past years. But them being excited doesn't mean that things are great at the Ranch. It means some guys who needed jobs, got jobs with cool perks at they are fired up to have said job.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

There are two things that need to be weeded out here

1) This whole notion of "mediots" is just becoming annoying. Hey, get this, the team used to be considered the model franchise for about 30 years and then in the last 2 decades things have gone ugly and we have bungled FA signings, Jerry doing his thing, 1 playoff win and enough drama to keep All My Children on the air. These media people are at Valley Ranch. They have more connections than 90% of us here. So please stop acting like that anyone who says something bad about the Cowboys has lost perspective when the team has done nothing and has been a circus for well over a decade now. Maybe "Garrett is powerless" comes up because all other coaches..even Parcells...ended up being powerless and left. What has happened to change that? Wake up. It's not a novel aspect of being with the Cowboys.

[View Full Quote]2) Well written article and I'm glad the coaches are excited BUT you also have to take these things as they are..puff pieces. Of course Dooley is excited. No one was calling him and he was sitting on his couch but the Cowboys wanted him. It's special because he never expected a job offer. Kiffin just had a horrible run at USC and is 72...who was beating down his door? Listen, I like theses guys enthusiasm. I hope they do a better job than Garrett to get us farther than these past years. But them being excited doesn't mean that things are great at the Ranch. It means some guys who needed jobs, got jobs with cool perks.

you clearly have not been elsewhere and seen the local coverage. I have been and NOWHERE else are the local MEDIOTS (And they have EARNED that curseword) so anti team as they are here. even in places like cleveland they are not this bad.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

you clearly have not been elsewhere and seen the local coverage. I have been and NOWHERE else are the local MEDIOTS (And they have EARNED that curseword) so anti team as they are here. even in places like cleveland they are not this bad.

Are you kidding? I've lived in Chicago for 2 years now. These people are relentless. It is negative 90% of the time. Nothing is good enough. This media market beats the crud out of the glad handing and good ole boy pop shots taken at the Cowboys in the Texas area.

The Cowboys were the darlings for decades. The media loved the players, the personalities and all the winning. The media is negative now because of a few things...losing, Jones and Jones way of running the dog and pony show. We are talking about a franchise that had a winning record in 26 out of 31 years. Then they basically started making horrible moves, treating people like they were idiots and they haven't won a thing. Losing equals negativity. What do you want from the media...to paint a rosy picture of the past 17 years and act like it hasn't happened? That is the job of the people on the these boards that have no objective mindset and who accept mediocre as the new "good."

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Are you kidding? I've lived in Chicago for 2 years now. These people are relentless. It is negative 90% of the time. Nothing is good enough.

The Cowboys were the darlings for decades. The media loved the players, the personalities and all the winning. The media is negative now because of a few things...losing, Jones and Jones way of running the dog and pony show. We are talking about a franchise that had a winning record in 26 out of 30 years. Then they basically started making horrible moves, treating people like they were idiots and they haven't won a thing. Losing equals negativity. What do you want from the media...to paint a rosy picture of the past 17 years and act like it hasn't happened? That is the job of the people on the these boards that have no objective mindset and who accept mediocre as the new "good."

I lived in the Chicago media area for 20 years. There is nothing you can tell me aabout that at all.

And your sample size is very limited

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

There are two things that need to be weeded out here

1) This whole notion of "mediots" is just becoming annoying. Hey, get this, the team used to be considered the model franchise for about 30 years and then in the last 2 decades things have gone ugly and we have bungled FA signings, Jerry doing his thing, 1 playoff win and enough drama to keep All My Children on the air. These media people are at Valley Ranch. They have more connections than 90% of us here. So please stop acting like that anyone who says something bad about the Cowboys has lost perspective when the team has done nothing and has been a circus for well over a decade now. Maybe "Garrett is powerless" comes up because all other coaches..even Parcells...ended up being powerless and left. What has happened to change that? Wake up. It's not a novel aspect of being with the Cowboys.

[View Full Quote]2) Well written article and I'm glad the coaches are excited BUT you also have to take these things as they are..puff pieces. Of course Dooley is excited. No one was calling him and he was sitting on his couch but the Cowboys wanted him. It's special because he never expected a job offer. Kiffin just had a horrible run at USC and is 72...who was beating down his door? Listen, I like theses guys enthusiasm. I hope they do a better job than Garrett to get us farther than these past years. But them being excited doesn't mean that things are great at the Ranch. It means some guys who needed jobs, got jobs with cool perks at they are fired up to have said job.

You're exactly right. What's more, every media guy in town (with the possible exception of Newy Scruggs, I'm not sure on him) love them some Garrett and most have been openly rooting for him to succeed. So it's wrong to act like everyone in town wants the team to fail.

But as pointed out above, this "article" wasn't even written by a so-called mediot. It was written by a fan on a fan site much like this one. The OP liked it so much because this Tom Ryle guy is a hopeful cheerleader just like he is.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I lived in the Chicago media area for 20 years. There is nothing you can tell me aabout that at all.

And your sample size is very limited

Sample size may be limited but it doesn't take away the fact that I think that despite some negativity the Cowboys don't have it all that bad compared to say here. I mean look at guys like Galloway. His good ole boy style isn't exactly scathing and most of the stuff he writes on Jones and the Cowboys is geared on the reality that they haven't won and Jerry makes some peculiar moves. He loves Romo. I just think when you lose for this long, people will ask more questions. It's not negative. It's wondering "why." These guys are writers or reporters. They take what is given to them and add opinion or narrative. They have more access. But that is what they do and when a team isn't getting it done, then the tone gets to be more on a down note.

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

You're exactly right. What's more, every media guy in town (with the possible exception of Newy Scruggs, I'm not sure on him) love them some Garrett and most have been openly rooting for him to succeed. So it's wrong to act like everyone in town wants the team to fail.

But as pointed out above, this "article" wasn't even written by a so-called mediot. It was written by a fan on a fan site much like this one. The OP liked it so much because this Tom Ryle guy is a hopeful cheerleader just like he is.

Right. I've seen more media members support Garrett and Romo than most fans. The negative things I see come from losing and what Jones can do to change it.....stop being GM, his failed moves, unusual hirings, etc....Jerry just the last 2 years has caught more heat but, again, what do you expect when you go from winning at a high end clip to losing.

[Mr Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

There are two things that need to be weeded out here

1) This whole notion of "mediots" is just becoming annoying. Hey, get this, the team used to be considered the model franchise for about 30 years and then in the last 2 decades things have gone ugly and we have bungled FA signings, Jerry doing his thing, 1 playoff win and enough drama to keep All My Children on the air. These media people are at Valley Ranch. They have more connections than 90% of us here. So please stop acting like that anyone who says something bad about the Cowboys has lost perspective when the team has done nothing and has been a circus for well over a decade now. Maybe "Garrett is powerless" comes up because all other coaches..even Parcells...ended up being powerless and left. What has happened to change that? Wake up. It's not a novel aspect of being with the Cowboys.

[View Full Quote][View Full Quote] 2) Well written article and I'm glad the coaches are excited BUT you also have to take these things as they are..puff pieces. Of course Dooley is excited. No one was calling him and he was sitting on his couch but the Cowboys wanted him. It's special because he never expected a job offer. Kiffin just had a horrible run at USC and is 72...who was beating down his door? Listen, I like theses guys enthusiasm. I hope they do a better job than Garrett to get us farther than these past years. But them being excited doesn't mean that things are great at the Ranch. It means some guys who needed jobs, got jobs with cool perks at they are fired up to have said job.

You're exactly right. What's more, every media guy in town (with the possible exception of Newy Scruggs, I'm not sure on him) love them some Garrett and most have been openly rooting for him to succeed. So it's wrong to act like everyone in town wants the team to fail.

But as pointed out above, this "article" wasn't even written by a so-called mediot. It was written by a fan on a fan site much like this one. The OP liked it so much because this Tom Ryle guy is a hopeful cheerleader just like he is.

there is a picture of this Ryle person at the top of the article!

[T-RO]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

But as pointed out above, this "article" wasn't even written by a so-called mediot. It was written by a fan on a fan site much like this one. The OP liked it so much because this Tom Ryle guy is a hopeful cheerleader just like he is.

This. Nothing to see here. Move along, people.

The fact that the OP would find validation in this "article" merely speaks to the desperate measures that homer fans will take to collect any validation that things are well @ValleyR.

It gets difficult to watch fellow Cowboy brothers reduced to dumpster diving for shards of substantive hope.