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[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by ABQcowboyJR

It's all how one has their board setup. I didn't have a first round grade on Ansah or teo. The Moore pick was great IMO.

Our boards sounded similar then.
Most valued Ansah and Teo higher than I did as well. Can't say that I pushed Ansah all the way to round 2 though, but that just my take.

I liked my Phillip Thomas in the 3rd a lot. I also like your Wren Wilson okay, though I may have grabbed Logan Ryan there..it would be spiltting hairs.

[ABQcowboyJR]

Originally Posted by xwalker

In review, you did have a good draft. The biggest issue that I had with your draft was Okafor. It appears that SD is staying with the 3-4 and I'm not certain that Okafor is a good fit at OLB.

I think he projects well as a strong side OLB. Even in a 34 he is gonna end up playing with his hand on the ground a lot.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

Now that's going the extra mile.

To me, Okafor seemed like very good value there...but maybe not as much so for that scheme.

xw, I notice that your were happy with your draft as well.

I didn't really like Okafor when the Cowboys were in the 3-4. After they switched, I thought he would be a decent fit as a Strong-Side (only) DE. I just don't see the quickness to be a 3-4 OLB or Weak-Side DE in a 4-3.

In regards to my draft, yes getting Te'o at 25 was a steal IMO. Despite the silly hoax girlfriend issue, I see him as a long time top LB in either a 4-3 or as an ILB in 3-4.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by xwalker

I didn't really like Okafor when the Cowboys were in the 3-4. After they switched, I thought he would be a decent fit as a Strong-Side (only) DE. I just don't see the quickness to be a 3-4 OLB or Weak-Side DE in a 4-3.

In regards to my draft, yes getting Te'o at 25 was a steal IMO. Despite the silly hoax girlfriend issue, I see him as a long time top LB in either a 4-3 or as an ILB in 3-4.

RS can vouch this, I had your mock rated in the top 3 as well.

I wouldn't mind Dallas getting Aboushi in the 3rd round. He has some flexibility and could very well step in and start at RT.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

Our boards sounded similar then.
Most valued Ansah and Teo higher than I did as well. Can't say that I pushed Ansah all the way to round 2 though, but that just my take.

I liked my Phillip Thomas in the 3rd a lot. I also like your Wren Wilson okay, though I may have grabbed Logan Ryan there..it would be spiltting hairs.

Originally Posted by ABQcowboyJR

It's all how one has their board setup. I didn't have a first round grade on Ansah or teo. The Moore pick was great IMO.

No Te'o in the 1st?

Scout's Inc. Report:
Intangibles
Plays with passion and is the vocal leader and quarterback of the defense. A mature individual that has a great work ethic and knows what it takes to succeed at the next level. Named an eagle scout in 2008 and volunteers at the Hawaii Special Olympics and Head Start Preschool program.

Instincts/Recognition
Continues to improve diagnostic skills as career progresses. Quarterback of the defense and makes sure fellow teammates are line up in the proper positions. Reads keys quickly and shows very good playmaking instincts. Takes on blocks with proper shoulder to maintain gap integrity. Also flashes the rare innate 'snap shot' quality when taking on blocks to finish plays. Recognizes and reacts quicker than most LBs to screens and draws. Displays very good awareness in underneath zone coverage.

Take-on Skills
Displays good size and strength in this area. Flashes above-average point of attack skills and can deliver heavy hit to draw to a stalemate against bigger blockers. Also shows ability to absorb blocks but has room for improvement in this department. Displays very active hands and does a great job of keeping blockers off of frame to disengage, redirect and finish plays.

Range vs. Run
Displays very good range for his size. Covers sideline-to-sideline. He moves very well laterally while keeping his pads square to the line of scrimmage. Also transitions quickly when changing directions. Possesses an above-average closing burst and covers a lot of land in pursuit. Protects lower body well and plays on his feet.

Tackling
A strong, reliable and fundamentally sound tackler. A thumper that flashes ability to run through tackles and deliver heavy hit. Does a nice job of wrapping up upon contact and can lasso ball carriers at the legs. Takes good angles in pursuit and shows very good body control in space as a tackler. During film study it was few and far between him missing tackles he should make.

3rd Down Capabilities
Easy movement skills give him a wide range in underneath zone coverage. Flashes playmaking ability and displays ability to get hands on ball to break up passes. Can carry TEs down field and shows ability to match up in man coverage. However, may have limitations sticking with quicker RBs out of the backfield. Displays good timing with pressures. Also shows excellent power and hands to work through blocks. He closes in a hurry and is relentless in pursuit of QBs.

NFLDS:
He worked his way into the starting line-up as a true freshman and started nine games, finishing fourth on the team in tackles with 63 stops. Te'o emerged as a defensive leader in 2010 as a sophomore, leading the team with a career-best 133 tackles. He again led the Irish defense in tackles in 2011 as a junior with 128 stops, adding 13.5 tackles for loss and 5.0 sacks and earning All-American honors.

While he did not join former Michigan star Charles Woodson as the second defender to win the Heisman Trophy, Te'o is considered by some to be the most decorated defender in college football history. He won the Maxwell Award and Walter Camp Awards as the nation's top player overall, the Lott IMPACT Defensive Player of the Year award, as well as the Bednarik Award (best defender), Nagurski Award (best defender), the Lombardi Award (best lineman/linebacker) and Butkus Award as the nation's top linebacker.

While the NFL could care less about a collegiate prospect's stocked trophy case, it is tough not to acknowledge the relative safety that the 6-2, 255-pound Te'o provides as an instinctive, physical defender capable of making big plays against the run and pass.

STRENGTHS: Possesses a typical Polynesian build. Has a stocky, powerful frame with overall weight distribution and a naturally low-center of gravity which aids him in anchoring against blockers. Shows very good key and diagnosis skills, correctly identifying the intent of the play and quickly attacking. May not possess elite straight-line speed as timed in workouts but consistently gets to the edge due to his lateral agility, balance and anticipation. Generally a reliable open field tackler.

Brings his hips as he hits the ball-carrier, powering through him and wrapping his arm securely for the tackle. Does a nice job of forcing the ballcarrier to commit, rarely allowing cut-back opportunities.

Returned for his senior season dedicated to making himself a more productive defender against the pass and was incredibly successful in those role, demonstrating not only better speed and fluidity but instincts in coverage. Entered his senior campaign with zero career interceptions but recorded seven in 2012 to lead all FBS linebackers.

Showed much better awareness, body control and ball-skills in this regard as a senior. Known throughout his career as a leader and a man of integrity. Voted a team captain. Earned the prestigious Eagle Scout award in 2008.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

RS can vouch this, I had your mock rated in the top 3 as well.

I wouldn't mind Dallas getting Aboushi in the 3rd round. He has some flexibility and could very well step in and start at RT.

Thanks. I wouldn't be surprised to see Aboushi drafted in the 2nd round.

[Sifillest]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Thanks. I wouldn't be surprised to see Aboushi drafted in the 2nd round.

Dude....Aboushi was about to be my pick in the 4th. Hurt when he got selected. My ideal board was picked apart by ravenous wolves.

[tm1119]

I wasn't crazy about my Giants draft either, but 3rd to last? Ouch. I agree the trade was stupid, I kinda did it just for the sake of trading the day before the draft. But you can't deny the talent I got. Mingo, Watson, and Slay all have ceilings through the rough and are positions of need for the Giants. Hell, all 3 could easily start day 1 for them. And Bostic could easily beat out Blackburn at MLB too. I would say middle of the pack is more where I belong.

[DFWJC]

Some have Teo in the teens. I had him at #20. I think McShay had him going 12th. So compared to some, I had him lower. Definitely not in rd 2 though.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by tm1119

I wasn't crazy about my Giants draft either, but 3rd to last? Ouch. I agree the trade was stupid, I kinda did it just for the sake of trading the day before the draft. But you can't deny the talent I got. Mingo, Watson, and Slay all have ceilings through the rough and are positions of need for the Giants. Hell, all 3 could easily start day 1 for them. And Bostic could easily beat out Blackburn at MLB too. I would say middle of the pack is more where I belong.

He was rough on you, imo.

I had you right in the middle of the pack.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by tm1119

I wasn't crazy about my Giants draft either, but 3rd to last? Ouch. I agree the trade was stupid, I kinda did it just for the sake of trading the day before the draft. But you can't deny the talent I got. Mingo, Watson, and Slay all have ceilings through the rough and are positions of need for the Giants. Hell, all 3 could easily start day 1 for them. And Bostic could easily beat out Blackburn at MLB too. I would say middle of the pack is more where I belong.

Giving up a 2014 3rd round pick killed your draft.

Mingo was drafted about where he is expected to go. He is small for the Giants scheme. They use bigger DEs.

Love the Watson pick at 58.

Not sure about Slay. He only started for 1 year and had some issues in run defense/tackling.

Bostic appears to have borderline speed.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Giving up a 2014 3rd round pick killed your draft.

Mingo was drafted about where he is expected to go. He is small for the Giants scheme. They use bigger DEs.

Love the Watson pick at 58.

Not sure about Slay. He only started for 1 year and had some issues in run defense/tackling.

Bostic appears to have borderline speed.

In his defense, if you go by the draft value chart he made a pretty fair trade

RS gave up 1150
He gave up: 875+185+64= 1134....a 2014 3rd rounder is usually valued as a 2012 4th rounder.

As for Slay and Bostic, I kind of agree with you. That's what I put him in the middle of the pack.

But that's why we all have our own grades.

[Dash28]

That's great stuff X.