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02-23-2013
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#76
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Originally Posted by Galian Beast
Yes, let's completely forgo reality here.
Luck had a 76.5 QB rating. He threw 18 picks on 23 touchdowns. Compared to Romo who threw 19 picks on 28 touchdowns. Romo also threw for 600 more yards, 10% more accurate. Romo was better in every way.
Teams change year in and year out. Just because you played a better team in 2011 doesn't mean that same team is as good in 2012. The AFC South was a joke this year, as was the AFC East.
The redskins weren't horrible in 2011, they just couldn't get things done on offense. Their offense stood up a great deal this year.
Wilson also inherited a great defense. As did Kap.
Romo doesn't have any of that.
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You are trying to focus on stats alone to decide if one QB is better than the other. It simply doesn't work that way. Some QB's are smart enough to do exactly what it takes to win and shine when they need to shine and know how to lead a team. Andrew Luck did just that his ROOKIE year. A previous 2-14 team (In a weak division) turned into a 11-5 team? Luck was by far the biggest reason for that. That guy is a winner and a leader.
The Redskins were horrible in 2011..6-10 is horrible. Were the 2010 Cowboys horrible at 6-10? Yes. You are right about their offense getting a LOT better. Why? Ya think RG3 had something to do with that? He was a tremendous leader right out of the gate that rallied his team each and every game and didn't let them give up when they were 3-6 and his team wanted to give up. Something that Romo is still trying to learn 7 years into the league. Redskins had a 27th ranked defense in 2012, so how the heck did they win the division and make the playoffs?
Last edited by ufcrules1 : 02-23-2013 at 10:14 AM.
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02-23-2013
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#77
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Well this Romo thread derailed as they always do. Why are people surprised Romo is waiting for the flacco deal? The contract Flacco gets raises the value of every franchise QB in the league.
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02-23-2013
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#78
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Joined: | Jun 2012 |
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Originally Posted by Dash28
Agreed.
It's hilarious when people judge and make their minds up after seeing one season from rookies, show me consistency and then we can talk about rook Qb's.
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Indeed. Rookie QB's shouldn't even be in the conversation. I wonder how many of these same people that are ranking RG3, Wilson, and Luck ahead of Romo also ranked Newton ahead of him after his rookie year. Look at him now.
Anyone who's ranking any of these rookies ahead of vets are simply basing their ranking on what they think these guys might do in the future, which is ridiculous.
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02-23-2013
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#79
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | philadelphia |
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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88
And why is that when he hasn't accomplished anything?
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He has accomplished something,he has earned the nickname TONY TURNOVER. Put him any pressure situation and you can bet there will be 1 or 2 interceptions thrown. Yeah go ahead pay him a boatload, he might get enough incentive to drive this team to a 9 win season. What a freaking joke this has become!!!!
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02-23-2013
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#80
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I find it fascinating how many people still stick behind Tony Romo. Romo is better than Kap, Wilson, Luck, RG3? Romo is probably better than Wilson IMO (in this point in his career). Wilson has had the luxury of playing with a top 3 defense. Well see how RG3 responds to his knee injury as well so I will leave that out. But Kap and Luck? I agree, Luck's stats weren't earth shattering but he has already shown us he has the ability to be clutch and win games, same with Kap. Tony Romo is the most unclutch QB I've ever seen in my life. Does he suck? No. But I can't fathom how some of this fan base can see Tony Romo leading the Cowboys to an NFC Championship game and winning. I would sign him to a very friendly contract upfront with the ability to cut ties after this coming season.
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02-23-2013
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#81
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Originally Posted by Alexander
I will tell you why he should.
Flacco sets the market now. Until Rodgers signs his next big contract, this is how the market for QB contracts for the next few years will go.
There is no reason he should just take whatever restructure is offered to him because he is so glad to have a star on his helmet.
He could leave next year and have five-six teams running to sign him.
He frustrates me quite a bit, but I do not understand what exactly people expect him to do.
This means he, or more likely his agent, are intelligent and waiting for the market to set his value and then if he's willing, which he supposedly is, to do a deal that is fair to himself and the Cowboys.
It really has nothing to do with Flacco versus Romo. It is about the market being set because Flacco will set the bar.
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GOOD GOODBYE...let him leave next season. What good does it do for this team to go 8-8 or 9-7 ever year and just have excuse after excuse build up on to why we dont succeed. People on this board just amaze me at times...the homerism is astonishing.
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02-23-2013
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#82
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The Instant Classic
Years Donated 2005, 2009, 2012, 2013
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We've officially reached the point of the offseason when the bizzarro Romo takes start showing up. That's a good sign the healing has started and recovery for all our hurt feelings can't be far behind.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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02-23-2013
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#83
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Idgit
We've officially reached the point of the offseason when the bizzarro Romo takes start showing up. That's a good sign the healing has started and recovery for all our hurt feelings can't be far behind.
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You folks started those a long time ago. You know, how he can lead us to a Super Bowl. 
By the end of 2014 Romo will not be starting for the cowboys and the most popular phrase on the board will be..."see I knew we shouldn't have signed him to that big contract".
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02-23-2013
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#84
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Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Originally Posted by noshame
You folks started those a long time ago. You know, how he can lead us to a Super Bowl. 
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The easiest thing to say is that a QB will never lead his team to a SuperBowl.
The odds outrageously against it happening...on average.
Only 7 active QBs have led their team to a SB win.
My guess is there have been about 90-100 QBs in the league over that time period.
Until a guy wins a SB the naysayers will be right every year. It's the easy way out. It applies to all players.
For example
Peyton Manning was in the league 8 years before he won a SB
Drew Brees for 9 years
Evena young guy like Flaco, whos team was good enought to go tothe playoffs 5 straight year (so five chances)...naysayers would have been correct until this year.
Any naysayer was correct in saying they won't win a SB until they actually won one.
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02-23-2013
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#85
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Super bowl? That is laughable. I would settle for a playoff appearance. Heck, I would settle for putting up a valiant effort in a win or your in game.. even if we lost it.
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02-23-2013
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#86
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by DFWJC
The easiest thing to say is that a QB will never lead his team to a SuperBowl.
The odds outrageously against it happening...on average.
Only 7 active QBs have led their team to a SB win.
My guess is there have been about 90-100 QBs in the league over that time period.
Until a guy wins a SB the naysayers will be right every year. It's the easy way out. It applies to all players.
For example
Peyton Manning was in the league 8 years before he won a SB
Drew Brees for 9 years
Evena young guy like Flaco, whos team was good enought to go tothe playoffs 5 straight year (so five chances)...naysayers would have been correct until this year.
Any naysayer was correct in saying they won't win a SB until they actually won one.
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Look, this is easy, just convince me that Romo has shown that he is capable of winning 3-4 pressure filled play-off games in a row. I will leap back on the band wagon. I can't imagine that happening in my wildest dreams.
By the end of 2014 Romo will not be starting for the cowboys and the most popular phrase on the board will be..."see I knew we shouldn't have signed him to that big contract".
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02-23-2013
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#87
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Joined: | May 2012 |
Posts: | 234 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
What was funny about a his post?
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sometimes you ppl crack me up.. i heard you loose weight with laughter
Collin Klein in 2013 plz !!!!
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02-23-2013
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#88
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Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noshame
Look, this is easy, just convince me that Romo has shown that he is capable of winning 3-4 pressure filled play-off games in a row. I will leap back on the band wagon. I can't imagine that happening in my wildest dreams.
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Up until this year, did Flacco show you that? He was a horrible playoff QB who rode the coattails of his team. But then this year...boom..he got it together for three games.
Are you saying the same thing about Matt Ryan?
How about the 60 other QBs in the league who haven't won a SB or strung together 3-4 games in a row of "pressure-filled" games?
If you say no to all of them too. You have an argument.
The sample size is too small to say Romo can't do it in the playoffs...and other than in 2007, the team has not been that great either. I understand part of that is his and the team's fault to not get those chances.
But if you get multiple chances--I think he and team has 3 trips to the playoffs and advanced once...came within inches of advancding all three times--your odds go way up of breaking through.
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02-23-2013
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#89
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Joined: | Nov 2007 |
Location: | TeXas |
Posts: | 5,311 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noshame
Look, this is easy, just convince me that Romo has shown that he is capable of winning 3-4 pressure filled play-off games in a row. I will leap back on the band wagon. I can't imagine that happening in my wildest dreams.
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:: crickets::
Gemini Dolly's twitter
QB Tony Romo has played 4 "Win or Go Home" games since 2008 (includes 2 playoff gms) -- in 3 of them, his QBR was less than 20"
---ESPNStatsINFO
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02-23-2013
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#90
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Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini Dolly
:: crickets::
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No crickets...read the friggin post.
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