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WPBCowboysFan · 02-25-2013

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BS, every time a car went by itself they got left in the dust.

She wouldnt have been by herself. She would have been the car in the front of the inside line.

Sounds more like you are the one that doesnt understand NASCAR.

Ive got nothing against Super Danica, I just watched the race and saw it for what it was. Not bashing her, nor building her up as something she isnt/wasnt.

Phoenix · 02-26-2013

I thought this was hilarious. 5-TIME 5-TIME 5-TIME Jimmy Johnson, #48, and his crew, doing the Harlem Shake after winning the 500

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-26-2013

It's interesting, I watched the race myself this weekend and I have a very good friend who was actually at the race this past weekend with a guy who used to run Busch National Cars some years back. He said two things that, at the time, I agreed with.

1. Was a mistake for Patrick to take on no new rubber in the last pit.

2. Drivers, throughout the race, took wind from the rear of her car.

Because she did not take on fresh rubber, she could not run in the corners. However, it was easy to see that she had enough car to run at the front because she would track the pack down in the straights. People were drafting with her but that's only because she would pull them along. It was not because they were trying to help her IMO. Every time she tried to move to the front, they would back off of her and she would lose the draft. She was afraid and she was right to be so. She new that if she tried to make a pass on the front runners, she would get freight trained. She absolutely would have and it showed. Number 1 is not her call really. That was a crew chief call IMO. They wanted to lead some laps and they did. I'm certain that they figured out that nobody was going to run with her towards the front and so, the crew chief (rightly so IMO) probably elected to make as many points as they could. The tires she had on the car weren't used up and so he probably elected to stay on the rubber they had and chance position gain on the pit stop. It didn't really help them but it didn't hurt them either.

At the end of the day, I don't really have a problem with what happened out there. She's new to the Series and you pay your dues. That means that people don't have to run with you and they didn't. Suck it up and run strong at the next race. In time, if you are able to run well, eventually people will run with you and you will have a chance to win that kind of race next time maybe. However, those of you who said she can't drive and all that other crap were dead wrong IMO. She has things to learn but she's got plenty of talent and she can drive.

Get used to it boys. Patrick, if she can stick it out, is going to be a top driver IMO.

WPBCowboysFan · 02-27-2013

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Get used to it boys. Patrick, if she can stick it out, is going to be a top driver IMO.

Like Indy Car?

burmafrd · 02-27-2013

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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Like Indy Car?

I have to laugh how you just cannot let go of the fact a girl is showing your boys she can do it to.

burmafrd · 02-27-2013

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

It's interesting, I watched the race myself this weekend and I have a very good friend who was actually at the race this past weekend with a guy who used to run Busch National Cars some years back. He said two things that, at the time, I agreed with.

1. Was a mistake for Patrick to take on no new rubber in the last pit.

2. Drivers, throughout the race, took wind from the rear of her car.

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who makes the decision on tires? The driver or the Crew chief?

Doomsday101 · 02-27-2013

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who makes the decision on tires? The driver or the Crew chief?

Crew chief does

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-27-2013

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Like Indy Car?

Indy/Cart didn't leave Patrick. Patrick left them.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-27-2013

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who makes the decision on tires? The driver or the Crew chief?

It depends on the team. If you have a very experienced driver, the driver can have input, especially in NASCAR, but in the case of Patrick, I'd say (as I did in the original post) that I would guess the Crew Chief, Tony Gibson. More then likely, he would check the mileage on the tires, check things like fuel usage, check with the Pit Crew Chief and ask how the car is handling from Patrick. Then, he would likely make a decision. Teams are different because, as I said, some guys own their own cars and so they call the shots on that. Some teams have drivers that have skins on the wall and they make the call. In this case, neither of those are present so I would guess the Crew Chief would make the call.

WPBCowboysFan · 02-27-2013

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Indy/Cart didn't leave Patrick. Patrick left them.

Was she a top driver there?

You make it sound Michael Jordan leaving the NBA to play baseball.

WPBCowboysFan · 02-27-2013

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I have to laugh how you just cannot let go of the fact a girl is showing your boys she can do it to.

Do what, ride around and hope to finish rather than go for the win?

We've had ONE race. Lets see how the season goes before we declare her the next 5-Time.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-27-2013

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Was she a top driver there?

You make it sound Michael Jordan leaving the NBA to play baseball.

No, you hear it like that. That's not what is being said. She was a draw and because of that, Cart/Indy did not really want to see here leave. That series is desperate for coverage and as such, they would have liked to have seen Patrick stay but she decided she wanted to move on. It is what it is.

I'm just saying, she has talent and if she can hang in there, she's going to do well.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-27-2013

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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Do what, ride around and hope to finish rather than go for the win?

We've had ONE race. Lets see how the season goes before we declare her the next 5-Time.

Only you are doing that in this thread.

I don't know why you are so caught up on Patrick but that's fine. It is the first race and there is a lot more racing to go. She is going to have good days and bad days and she will continue to learn. It is what it is.

Doomsday101 · 02-27-2013

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Do what, ride around and hope to finish rather than go for the win?

We've had ONE race. Lets see how the season goes before we declare her the next 5-Time.

No one is trying to declare her the next 5 time some of us our giving her credit for going out and performing well.

I have no idea how she will do on the season, there are a lot of good drivers and teams out there all shooting for a spot to go for the cup.

I don't think anyone with reasonable expectation thinks she will be sitting at the top of the cup standings, for her right now finishing races and getting some good finishes under her belt is a reasonable expectations.

I don't get this Ricky Bobby attitude of "If you ain't first, you're last!" Rookie drivers in NASCAR are just trying to get out there and learn and become better drivers so that they can have a chance in the future.

Diogenes · 02-27-2013

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

It depends on the team. If you have a very experienced driver, the driver can have input, especially in NASCAR, but in the case of Patrick, I'd say (as I did in the original post) that I would guess the Crew Chief, Tony Gibson. More then likely, he would check the mileage on the tires, check things like fuel usage, check with the Pit Crew Chief and ask how the car is handling from Patrick. Then, he would likely make a decision. Teams are different because, as I said, some guys own their own cars and so they call the shots on that. Some teams have drivers that have skins on the wall and they make the call. In this case, neither of those are present so I would guess the Crew Chief would make the call.

Sometimes when Dale Earnhardt's crew chief would suggest a 2 tire stop, Dale would tell him he wasn't leaving his pit stall until he got 4 new tires.