Neosapien23's final mock - Dallas Cowboys Forum

neosapien23 · 02-28-2013

1. Jonathan Cooper G/C First off I don't believe the hype. This guy will not be gone before the 18th pick. Warmack will go at 16 to St. Louis and then Cooper will go immediately afterwards. Guards do not go high. That being said I think Jerry is just blowing smoke. I don't think he is happy with the Oline as is.

2. Syvester Williams DT Again I don't think this guy is going to go as high as the mock drafts are showing. I think he slips to the 2nd due to the deep class at DT. Dallas needs a 1 tech who can clog lanes and rush the passer. Williams fits the bill to a T.

3. Brennan Williams OT I think this guy would be a perfect fit at RT. I also don't think Dallas trusts Parnell. I think Dallas will hedge their bets on having a starter on the right side and will allow Williams to compete against Parnell for the starting gig. Even if Parnell starts over Williams, they need depth in case Smith or Parnell gets hurt.

4. Shawn Williams S He had a much better combine than production, but he is still legit 4th round safety prospect. I think Rambo will be there but I don't think Dallas will draft someone with a drug past. Cyprien and Swearinger are better prospects but I don't think either will make it this far down.

5. Quanterus Smith DE A torn ACl dropped his stock, but when healthy he was a terror and he took DJ Flukers manhood away. Smith will be perfect for a redshirt year where he tries to put weight on and heal his knee. He wouldn't produce much in his first year but would be a good player in his 2nd year.

6. Knile Davis RB Dallas needs a RB and this guy has all the tools you look for. He is always injured but most 6th round picks never pan out anyway. He could be a steal in the 6th round and is well worth the risk here. I know he's got an injury history but you can't coach that speed and strength ratio.

AsthmaField · 02-28-2013

Absolutely love the first two picks. If it fell that way, I'd be more than happy.

I would rather take a guy like Swearinger in the 3rd, but the first two picks are so good that I wouldn't care.

Future · 02-28-2013

Would be real happy with that...has any team ever taken players from the same school in the first three rounds?

If we get Cooper and Williams in the first two, I'd go S in the third and go from there. Overall though, I'd be pretty happy with this.

xwalker · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by neosapien23

1. Jonathan Cooper G/C
2. Syvester Williams DT
3. Brennan Williams OT
4. Shawn Williams S
5. Quanterus Smith DE
6. Knile Davis RB

Excellent mock. One of the best that I've seen.

1. Jonathan Cooper G/C
IMO, he is a better Guard than Joeckel is a Tackle. In other words, if he were a Tackle he would easily be a top 5 pick.

The possibility of him playing Center is the primary issue that could cause him to not be available; however, the fact that some team won't be able to resist Warmack should help Cooper make it to #18.

2. Sylvester Williams DT
I like this player. I'm not sure why he is rated this low. Is Hankins really a better player?

3. Brennan Williams OT
I'm a big fan of this player also. He is the perfect RT that could probably play some LT if needed.

4. Shawn Williams S
I was really surprised to see his combine numbers. I liked him in game footage; however, I thought he might be a bit slow. His 4.46/1.52 Forty/Ten show that he has good speed.

5. Quanterus Smith DE
Another very good player. This is the area to take injured or other high upside players.

6. Knile Davis RB
I'm doubtful that he makes it to the 6th round after blowing up the combine. He has some incredible physical ability. Again, this area of the draft is a great place to take players with issues that have very high upsides. I hated the fact that the Cowboy took a very low upside player in the 7th last year.

MonsterD · 02-28-2013

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3. Brennan Williams OT I think this guy would be a perfect fit at RT. I also don't think Dallas trusts Parnell. I think Dallas will hedge their bets on having a starter on the right side and will allow Williams to compete against Parnell for the starting gig. Even if Parnell starts over Williams, they need depth in case Smith or Parnell gets hurt.

I think there are better choices that will be available in the third, Williams doesn't really amaze me.

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4. Shawn Williams S He had a much better combine than production, but he is still legit 4th round safety prospect. I think Rambo will be there but I don't think Dallas will draft someone with a drug past. Cyprien and Swearinger are better prospects but I don't think either will make it this far down.

Love this guy, he played ILB last year, he is a team guy and a leader, big and physical w/speed, definitely a guy that can get a lot better.

visionary · 02-28-2013

excellent draft

i agree with other posters that we really need a starter at safety and someone like swearinger will be there in 3

you could then take quesenberry in 4 to be the developmental OT

tm1119 · 02-28-2013

Also not crazy about Brennan Williams, think there are 3-4 better OT's available in the 3/4 round rage. Other than that its a great draft.

xwalker · 02-28-2013

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Also not crazy about Brennan Williams, think there are 3-4 better OT's available in the 3/4 round rage. Other than that its a great draft.

Serious question, not a jab, did you watch many of his games?

RS12 · 02-28-2013

Q Smith is your most intriguing pick.

JDSTAR · 02-28-2013

Why is this your final mock?

tm1119 · 02-28-2013

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Serious question, not a jab, did you watch many of his games?

Not a ton but I've watched probably 3 or 4 full UNC games over the past 2 years, but I have done my research on Williams and pretty much all of the RT candidates in this draft. My problem with Williams is that he plays VERY high which causes him to be a bit clumsy at lot of times. He has a nice kick step and when he just has to simply block the guy in front of him he's usually pretty good, but when things break down or he's asked to get to the 2nd level he struggles.

I wouldn't hate the pick or anything, I just question whether he is going to be able to come in and start. 4th round and I'd be much happier.

rwalters31 · 03-01-2013

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Originally Posted by neosapien23

1. Jonathan Cooper G/C First off I don't believe the hype. This guy will not be gone before the 18th pick. Warmack will go at 16 to St. Louis and then Cooper will go immediately afterwards. Guards do not go high. That being said I think Jerry is just blowing smoke. I don't think he is happy with the Oline as is.

Not BAD!

2. Syvester Williams DT Again I don't think this guy is going to go as high as the mock drafts are showing. I think he slips to the 2nd due to the deep class at DT. Dallas needs a 1 tech who can clog lanes and rush the passer. Williams fits the bill to a T.

I have no opinion here. How is his lateral pursuit? Is he a good 1 technique DT as a stand up DT or can push the Oline back?

[View Full Quote]3. Brennan Williams OT I think this guy would be a perfect fit at RT. I also don't think Dallas trusts Parnell. I think Dallas will hedge their bets on having a starter on the right side and will allow Williams to compete against Parnell for the starting gig. Even if Parnell starts over Williams, they need depth in case Smith or Parnell gets hurt.

I rather have another G but any OL help is an improvement.

4. Shawn Williams S He had a much better combine than production, but he is still legit 4th round safety prospect. I think Rambo will be there but I don't think Dallas will draft someone with a drug past. Cyprien and Swearinger are better prospects but I don't think either will make it this far down.

Agree that this spot in the draft is an excellent pick for Safety. My only question is can he play the required Tampa 2 smart Safety this year?

5. Quanterus Smith DE A torn ACl dropped his stock, but when healthy he was a terror and he took DJ Flukers manhood away. Smith will be perfect for a redshirt year where he tries to put weight on and heal his knee. He wouldn't produce much in his first year but would be a good player in his 2nd year.

This is a very good spot for a DL pick. My pick would be a DT. My question is we have had too many injured players who could not play a 16 game season can this guy come in and play or do we have to pick up a player who can sub for him?

6. Knile Davis RB Dallas needs a RB and this guy has all the tools you look for. He is always injured but most 6th round picks never pan out anyway. He could be a steal in the 6th round and is well worth the risk here. I know he's got an injury history but you can't coach that speed and strength ratio.

I would have picked a OL or DL pick here. The injured guys who where mentioned in this post probably would have been my choice as my first two un-drafted FA. I would not pick any player who was injured in this draft as I consider this draft as too important for any post season hope for a long time to come. I am saying that the OL and DL should and must be addressed or the Boys will look a lot like the Steeler's (and Cowboys) did this last year. An aging group who the team depends too much on and doomed to fail at the end of the season.

See comments above.

Macnalty · 03-01-2013

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See comments above.

Sylvester Williams played hurt when I watched him, bad ankle, he is really inconsistent and I chalked it up to his ankle. Unlike others with injuries last year this kid played through his problems and was a real handful on the pass rushes, which he seems to enjoy more than the mundane trench work of stopping the run. This guy healthy is really a good player, this one also has some heart. Sylvester played without concern for his draft status which last year was out of the ordinary, most guys were babying injuries. OK that may take him down a notch in the mental side of things long term. IMO second rd steal, along with Tank Carradine DL, Swearinger S, Warford OG, Cyprien S, and Jamar Taylor S. Yikes we have some real talent if these guys are still there at 47.

TheCount · 03-01-2013

I don't know that Williams will be there for us in the 2nd, but if we started the draft with those two, I'd be pretty darn pleased. I think Brennan Williams would require a bit of work before we'd be able to start him, and I'm not sure I can deal with another project on the line.

neosapien23 · 03-01-2013

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I don't know that Williams will be there for us in the 2nd, but if we started the draft with those two, I'd be pretty darn pleased. I think Brennan Williams would require a bit of work before we'd be able to start him, and I'm not sure I can deal with another project on the line.

I think pretty much any tackle taken in the 3rd round is going to need some time to get started. I can't imagine a 3rd round prospect coming in and starting right away. But Brennan Williams was tearing it up before he tore his labrum this year. If that hadn't occurred, I bet he would have been a 2nd rounder. If a much better tackle prosect is available in the 3rd than I would rather take him, but I think Williams will the best available. With that said, Dallas needs a RT badly.