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Old 03-02-2013   #136
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WAIT!!!! Am i too late to be apart of the unnecessary and overblown reaction group??
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Old 03-02-2013   #137
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That's just your agenda talking. There's no evidence that Parcells had any particular interest in Romo whatsoever prior to the draft. Only after he was in camp. Parcells does deserve full credit for keeping him though. IIRC they even went long on QBs one of those years, to keep Romo on the roster. If Parcells didn't think a lot of Romo, he'd've been gone.

For all your bellyaching about drafting and lineman, Parcells was as bad or worse during his tenure here as Jerry. Parcells had no stomach for the long haul in his later career, three years was about as much as you could count on him before he would jump ship.
I thought it was Sean Payton that brought in Romo because he broke all of Payton's records at E Illinois.
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Old 03-02-2013   #138
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Bill Parcells found Romo and Austin. Without Bill, they aren't here. Jerry and Stephen tried for nearly a decade before him and failed. Then Bill arrived and we immediately got better. That wasn't an accident. There's a reason he's in the Hall of Fame.
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Old 03-02-2013   #139
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According to Laufenberg, the coaches love Costa and see him developing into a top flight center.

Strange.
Come on, you mean it's possible for a twenty four year-old center to have improved??

I think Cowboys fans have become sooooo cynical that they can no longer see the forrest for the trees. Costa by all accounts was a player on the rise last year, his injury is the only question I have otherwise I would be very comfortable with him starting. Rather see an upgrade at guard or RT.
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According to Laufenberg, the coaches love Costa and see him developing into a top flight center.

Strange.
Well, compared to the rest of the crap on the oline, Costa actually looked pretty good.


Its kinda like the so-so looking girl who takes her fat friends to the bar so she looks hot in comparison.
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WAIT!!!! Am i too late to be apart of the unnecessary and overblown reaction group??
Not even close. Still plenty of time to join the rueage.



This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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I was right there when Costa tweaked his back on the first series during Week 1. He was never the same after that.

It concerns me with Costa because he's limited athletically as it is, so any lingering issue is not good. Oh yeah, did I mention he's had knee and ankle issues back-to-back seasons now?

Limited athletically? Look at his workout numbers....he is not limited. You people will go to any length to criticize some guys you just don't like. Just be honest. You don't care how strong he is. You don't care how athletic he is. You don't care what the coaching staff thinks of him. You just think he can't play and want him gone. So you will make stuff up.
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This is one of the more hilarious threads on this site.

His cap hit is less than a million dollars this year. If he got cut this year the hit would be half a million unless they guaranteed some of his salary. Sheesh, I like the guy and think he has promise but this deal doesn't give him long term security or even guarantee him a job.

I fully expect Dallas to draft either a center or guard for competition...if Costa keeps his spot, then great because he will have earned it. If not, it means we have a decent player to replace him.

Let's move on to something that really matters.
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I went back and watched some tape and he looked pretty good in the 2012 games for the most part. I think he's improved from 2011.

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People don't like undrafted players in their lineups for whatever reason. Throw in a 'short arms' comment or two, and a couple botched shotgun snaps, and there's no getting over it.

The team likes him, though. That's pretty clear. And he's gotten better each season. This extension is a good thing, no matter how it's spun.
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Limited athletically? Look at his workout numbers....he is not limited. You people will go to any length to criticize some guys you just don't like. Just be honest. You don't care how strong he is. You don't care how athletic he is. You don't care what the coaching staff thinks of him. You just think he can't play and want him gone. So you will make stuff up.
True true. I guess Costa being ranked as the 30th ranked center by PFF in 2011 has nothing to do with it.

Phil Costa hasn't earned or proven anything, but hey, continue to make excuses for the guy.

I bet you thought Alan Ball was the future Darren Woodson!
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True true. I guess Costa being ranked as the 30th ranked center by PFF in 2011 has nothing to do with it.

Phil Costa hasn't earned or proven anything, but hey, continue to make excuses for the guy.

I bet you thought Alan Ball was the future Darren Woodson!
Flapoke is Costa's agent.

And by the way I wonder where this idea was that Ngata injured his thigh

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That's just your agenda talking. There's no evidence that Parcells had any particular interest in Romo whatsoever prior to the draft. Only after he was in camp. Parcells does deserve full credit for keeping him though. IIRC they even went long on QBs one of those years, to keep Romo on the roster. If Parcells didn't think a lot of Romo, he'd've been gone.

For all your bellyaching about drafting and lineman, Parcells was as bad or worse during his tenure here as Jerry. Parcells had no stomach for the long haul in his later career, three years was about as much as you could count on him before he would jump ship.
Give him time and he'll stop pleasuring himself with a Parcells cardboard cutout long enough to tell you that Jacob Rogers was all Jones.
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Flapoke is Costa's agent.

And by the way I wonder where this idea was that Ngata injured his thigh

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/10/...ns-knee-sprain

I pulled up the All-22 for the game against the Ravens. Costa was not blocking Ngata on a majority of the plays.

The Ravens play a base 3-4 and Ngata is not the NT.

Costa was blocking these guys more often than Ngata:
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I give Parcells no credit for anything positive in Dallas, though I know that isn't fair either.

I still blame Parcells for being a stubborn-know-it-all when it came to the draft and RB. If he had done the logical thing as just about every fan and media type saw it and selected Steven Jackson when he miraculously fell to us in the draft at the bottom of round 1, not only would we have had a better running game all these years with a balanced attack, but imagine all those draft picks for Felix Jones, Marion Barbour, DeMarco Murray, along with the waisted time on Julius Jones...other starters could be on the team now for those 1st, 3rd, 4th round picks.

Forget every other issue over the years...imagine if Parcells had pulled the string on Jackson and Jerry had pulled the string on Moss. Jackson and Moss alone, two no-brainers to everyone else, could have changed the fortunes of this franchise.

Players make a bigger difference than coaches or owners in this league.
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