US Wants Courts to OK Warrantless Email Snooping

[jterrell]

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/11/05/0747209.shtml


"The Register is reporting that the US government is seeking unprecedented access to private communications between citizens. 'On October 8, 2007, the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit in Cincinnati granted the government's request for a full-panel hearing in United States v. Warshak case centering on the right of privacy for stored electronic communications. ... the position that the United States government is taking if accepted, may mean that the government can read anybody's email at any time without a warrant. The most distressing argument the government makes in the Warshak case is that the government need not follow the Fourth Amendment in reading emails sent by or through most commercial ISPs. The terms of service (TOS) of many ISPs permit those ISPs to monitor user activities to prevent fraud, enforce the TOS, or protect the ISP or others, or to comply with legal process. If you use an ISP and the ISP may monitor what you do, then you have waived any and all constitutional privacy rights in any communications or other use of the ISP.'"

[BrAinPaiNt]

...all in all it's just another brick in the wall.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

...all in all it's just another brick in the wall.

classic song.

scary premise.

btw i need you to im me your physical addy again

i got a hold of something we had discussed a while back. Now the lps are ripped to mp3. My Mom's pc finally broke so I got to work with it, lol.

[iceberg]

wow. that's pretty pathetic.

[ConcordCowboy]

If you don't have anything to hide...why would you care?

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy

If you don't have anything to hide...why would you care?

I dont want everyone to know about my fixation with twin midgets... rofl.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by jterrell

I dont want everyone to know about my fixation with twin midgets... rofl.

Heheheh, good one.

BTW who would win a fight, an army of midgets or an army of albinos?

[burmafrd]

Anyone who thinks Email is in any way secure or private is a total doofus.

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Anyone who thinks Email is in any way secure or private is a total doofus.

Maybe not but that still doesnt make it right for the government to envade my privacy.

[ConcordCowboy]

Originally Posted by jterrell

I dont want everyone to know about my fixation with twin midgets... rofl.

Having found this in one of your e-mails...I can definitely understand why you want to keep your e-mails secret.

[ConcordCowboy]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Anyone who thinks Email is in any way secure or private is a total doofus.

That has nothing to do with it.

It's about privacy rights.

Oh I forgot you're the one that thinks that the Government can trample any right if they feel like it...in the name of National Security.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Anyone who thinks Email is in any way secure or private is a total doofus.

The administration sure does want to keep it's emails private don't they?

Hmmm maybe they should practice what they preach and give up those "missing" emails.

[zrinkill]

This is wrong.

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Anyone who thinks Email is in any way secure or private is a total doofus.

you ever make a post that didn't piss at least 1 person off?

for the most part, your e-mail is secure and private. don't use "ilovemyself" for a password and no one will guess that on you. don't leave it on when you're not around and if it bugs you - use encryption or a digital signature for added privacy. if you're still wanting to be secure, setup a POP3 server on your home machine, register a DNS name and run it from home. now you don't have an ISP to worry about.

the point isn't how "secure" your e-mail is the point is how 'private' the government will allow your life to be.

i doubt seriously your car is secure. can i now get into it whenever i want? if you leave your door unlocked at your house, can i walk in and help myself to whatever is around?

point blank is this admin is using 9/11 as an excuse to take away our rights when to my way of thinking, we should go overboard to secure private rights in a time like this.

but back to e-mail...if you're smart enough to capture packets off the wire and put 'em together - feel free to capture my iceberg115@hotmail.com address and please, tell me what's in my inbox or what mail i've been sending.

can you? if so, hop on it. if not, then you're just posturing, as usual.

[Jarv]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

The administration sure does want to keep it's emails private don't they?

Hmmm maybe they should practice what they preach and give up those "missing" emails.

I hear ya, how come the Clintons aren't releasing all of those "White House" emails ??? I agree BP, Clintons can't be trusted.