Recording Industry goes after personal use - Dallas Cowboys Forum

ThaBigP · 01-01-2008

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122800693.html

Dunno if this tickles the concept of "political" enough to fall under this forum, but here goes anyway. After years of high-profile fighting of music piracy, the recording industry now seems poised to start suing over personal use. This would include buying a CD, taking it home, and converting it to MP3 or AAC for use in an Ipod or just to listen to on the computer (we're not even talking about offering to others for download - just ripping the CD you paid for so you can use the songs on other devices).

Here's a quote from the article:

Now, in an unusual case in which an Arizona recipient of an RIAA letter has fought back in court rather than write a check to avoid hefty legal fees, the industry is taking its argument against music sharing one step further: In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a Scottsdale, Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his personal computer, the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.

The industry's lawyer in the case, Ira Schwartz, argues in a brief filed earlier this month that the MP3 files Howell made on his computer from legally bought CDs are "unauthorized copies" of copyrighted recordings

Yeagermeister · 01-01-2008

That is complete BS. If you own the cd and don't share the files they need to butt out.

Crown Royal · 01-01-2008

The RIAA sucks. Instead of changing with the trends of demand, they want to strongarm the industry to stay the old way.

Oh well - other than older stuff, most of the music I listen to is from labels that fly under the RIAA radar.

Yeagermeister · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Crown Royal

The RIAA sucks. Instead of changing with the trends of demand, they want to strongarm the industry to stay the old way.

Oh well - other than older stuff, most of the music I listen to is from labels that fly under the RIAA radar.

I haven't bought any new cds in at least 2 years.

jterrell · 01-01-2008

the RIAA is literally stupid.

If in fact you can not rip cd's then they would sell even fewer than they do now.

They are crying about this cd swapping but people were taping the radio onto cassettes for years. Very few people are going to only listen to cds they have purchased.

**trickblue** · 01-01-2008

For years they forced us to buy a whole album full of crap for one good song...

If it wasn't pop then there rarely was a single put out...

They are also going after clubs that have live bands and forcing them to pay fees so the bands can do cover music...

They really have lost touch with reality...

I blame Bush...

windward · 01-01-2008

That is really going too far.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 01-02-2008

Screw them.

I only use copies of my CDs in my car.

I keep the original for home use and make a copy for my car. No worries if they get too hot, scratched or even stolen in the car because I know they are only copies.

Plus I have a large collection on my computer. I would guess between 1-1.5K worth of songs.

heavyg · 01-02-2008

I have always been confused over this whole music copyright situation. I thought the copyright said you could not make copies and make money off them? If your copying it for personal use where is the problem.

As as far as file sharing goes, do the bands really make that much money off CD sales? I would think they make more money from selling concert tickets and merchandise at the concerts. File sharing is free advertsing for the bands.

vta · 01-02-2008

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Originally Posted by heavyg

As as far as file sharing goes, do the bands really make that much money off CD sales? I would think they make more money from selling concert tickets and merchandise at the concerts. File sharing is free advertsing for the bands.

No, the bands make pennies per album. The RIAA has no interest in protecting the artist beyond being able to sponge off of them and continue to have the lion's share of the profits.

It's just another greedy move and will fall flat on it's face.

iceberg · 01-02-2008

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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Screw them.

I only use copies of my CDs in my car.

I keep the original for home use and make a copy for my car. No worries if they get too hot, scratched or even stolen in the car because I know they are only copies.

Plus I have a large collection on my computer. I would guess between 1-1.5K worth of songs.

1-1.5k?

got about the first 3 seconds of a song? : )

**big dog cowboy** · 01-02-2008

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Originally Posted by trickblue

They really have lost touch with reality...

Very true statement.

Rackat · 01-02-2008

My second HD has about 65-70G worth of music. All stuff that I put on there for back up in case my disks got screwed up when my kids were "borrowing them" (Yes, I listen to some of their music and they listen to some of mine) or like BP so that if the disks got messed up or stolen from my car, I wouldn't be out the money or the music.

I would like to see a class action lawsuit against the RIAA. Dunno if it would fly, but it would put their cheapskate butts on the defensive.

arglebargle · 01-02-2008

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Originally Posted by vta

No, the bands make pennies per album. The RIAA has no interest in protecting the artist beyond being able to sponge off of them and continue to have the lion's share of the profits.

It's just another greedy move and will fall flat on it's face.

VTA's got it. The RIAA is not nearly so zealous on behalf of the bands they supposedly represent. A really corrupt industry. If we could easilly do micropayments, and give the bands a nickle per song downloaded, most would make more money than they would from their CD sales. Lots of bands going the independent route now, many after learning the hard way.

Problem is the RIAA and their Hollywood allies have been instrumentel in passing new "Digital Rights' laws that favor them. No telling what they might have or get passed.

iceberg · 01-02-2008

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Originally Posted by arglebargle

VTA's got it. The RIAA is not nearly so zealous on behalf of the bands they supposedly represent. A really corrupt industry. If we could easilly do micropayments, and give the bands a nickle per song downloaded, most would make more money than they would from their CD sales. Lots of bands going the independent route now, many after learning the hard way.

Problem is the RIAA and their Hollywood allies have been instrumentel in passing new "Digital Rights' laws that favor them. No telling what they might have or get passed.

hey, i run a radio station online and i can flat tell you - they do not give a DAMN about the artist, only $$$.

for example, if we played only indie music, this latest 'ruling' for the riaa (otherwise known as soundexchange.com) would still force me to pay them the same fees. their initial request was exponantially higher than radio.

for example. if the FM station played kid rock, SO HOT, they pay a fee. now, if we play it on my site, i pay the fee for *every person listening*. not a fraction of the fee, but the same fee, many times over.

now, with indie music you'd think you'd get around it. but no. this ruling allowed them to collect fees FOR the indie artist, but ONLY IF they sign up as a soundexchange member (i believe. will need to check to be sure) and then i doubt they get the full pull from what they're owed.

so if i play music NOT with soundexchange, they just keep it.

they're still pretty mad they can't sell a CD for $20 anymore and give the artist (good ones) $1.10 a cd. tag on another $2 to produce it (full quality here) and you can see their profits are history.