Draft Prospect Player Comparisons - Dallas Cowboys Forum

masomenos · 02-20-2008

Just thought I'd throw this out there. There player comparisons were made by NFLDraftScout.com. I listed them for the positions that seem to be on most peoples minds, RB, WR and CB. The order of the players is courtesy of NFLDS as well.

RB:
1. Darren McFadden - Marshall Faulk
2. Jonathan Stewart - Ladanian Tomlinson
3. Rashard Mendenhall - Cedric Benson
4. Felix Jones - Carnell Williams
5. Jamaal Charles - None Given
6. Chris Johnson - Dave Meggett
7. Ray Rice - None Given
8. Steve Slaton - None Given
9. Matt Forte - Edgerrin James
10. Mike Hart - Joseph Addai
11. Justin Forsett - Maurice Jones Drew

WR:
1. Desean Jackson - Steve Smith
2. Malcolm Kelly - Larry Fitzgerald
3. Early Doucet - Dwayne Bowe
4. Mario Manningham - None Given
5. James Hardy - Harold Carmichael
6. Andre Caldwell - Hines Ward
7. Devin Thomas - None Given
8. Limas Sweed - Andre Johnson
9. Donnie Avery - Kevin Curtis
10. Lavelle Hawkins - Nate Burleson
11. DJ Hall - Laurent Robinson
12. Adarius Bowman - Braylon Edwards

CB:
1. Mike Jenkins - Carlos Rogers
2. Leodis McKelvin - R.W. McQuarters
3. Dominique Rodgers Cromartie - Terrence Newman
4. Antoine Cason - Chris McAllister
5. Aqib Talib - None Given
6. Reggie Smith - Quentin Jammer
7. Tracy Porter - Ricardo Coclough
8. Terrell Thomas - Dwight Smith
9. Charles Godfrey - None Given
10. Brandon Flowers - None Given
11. Dwight Lowery - Roderick Hood
12. DeJuan Tribble - Ricky Manning Jr
13. Chevis Jackson - Gary Baxter

Muhast · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by masomenos85

Just thought I'd throw this out there. There player comparisons were made by NFLDraftScout.com. I listed them for the positions that seem to be on most peoples minds, RB, WR and CB. The order of the players is courtesy of NFLDS as well.

RB:
1. Darren McFadden - Marshall Faulk
2. Jonathan Stewart - Ladanian Tomlinson
3. Rashard Mendenhall - Cedric Benson
4. Felix Jones - Carnell Williams
5. Jamaal Charles - None Given
6. Chris Johnson - Dave Meggett
7. Ray Rice - None Given
8. Steve Slaton - None Given
9. Matt Forte - Edgerrin James
10. Mike Hart - Joseph Addai
11. Justin Forsett - Maurice Jones Drew

WR:
1. Desean Jackson - Steve Smith
2. Malcolm Kelly - Larry Fitzgerald
3. Early Doucet - Dwayne Bowe
4. Mario Manningham - None Given
5. James Hardy - Harold Carmichael
6. Andre Caldwell - Hines Ward
7. Devin Thomas - None Given
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I have to say almost none of these are even close.

IndianaCowboyFan · 02-20-2008

3. Dominique Rodgers Cromartie - Terrence Newman

If true sounds good to me. Take him in the first.

masomenos · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Muhast

I have to say almost none of these are even close.

Pick out the ones you don't think are right, explain why and then I'll post NFL Draft Scouts reasoning so we can compare.

ctrous25 · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Muhast

I have to say almost none of these are even close.

You got that right!! McFadden compared with Faulk? What the heck is that?

masomenos · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by ctrous25

You got that right!! McFadden compared with Faulk? What the heck is that?

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]McFadden is a stronger runner than Faulk, but both are blessed with exception vision, using pitter-patter feet to get through trash and the "home run" acceleration to separate from defenders past the line of scrimmage. He is an efficient receiver out of the backfield, running precise routes and could even be split wide. He has the arm strength to throw the option pass and can also earn playing time as a kickoff returner, but needs to work on ball-security issues after he had 15 fumbles in 2007, many of them on special teams. He is certainly the best athlete eligible for the 2008 draft and has an array of weapons that will make any offensive coordinator drool. In an imaginative offense, he could be a regular participant in the Pro Bowl.[/FONT]

Duane · 02-20-2008

Frank Coyle does this and calls it the "Hindu Theory". It doesn't really tell you much because rarely do the players he matches together turn out anything alike.

BigDFan5 · 02-20-2008

Give me some more Romos

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by masomenos85

Just thought I'd throw this out there. There player comparisons were made by NFLDraftScout.com. I listed them for the positions that seem to be on most peoples minds, RB, WR and CB. The order of the players is courtesy of NFLDS as well.

RB:
1. Darren McFadden - Marshall Faulk
2. Jonathan Stewart - Ladanian Tomlinson
3. Rashard Mendenhall - Cedric Benson
4. Felix Jones - Carnell Williams
5. Jamaal Charles - None Given
6. Chris Johnson - Dave Meggett
7. Ray Rice - None Given
8. Steve Slaton - None Given
9. Matt Forte - Edgerrin James
10. Mike Hart - Joseph Addai
11. Justin Forsett - Maurice Jones Drew

WR:
1. Desean Jackson - Steve Smith
2. Malcolm Kelly - Larry Fitzgerald
3. Early Doucet - Dwayne Bowe
4. Mario Manningham - None Given
5. James Hardy - Harold Carmichael
6. Andre Caldwell - Hines Ward
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McFadden - Faulk
I watched Faulk play at San Dieogo St. He had moves to his game. He was more then just speed. He was not a one cut runner. McFadden's running style is nothing like Faulks, IMO. Maybe you compare there production and ability to catch the ball but they do it differently.

Early Doucet and Dwayne Bowe? Bowe is a pretty big WR if I recall correctly. Doucet has decent size but I would not call him overly big for a WR. I am not sure if Doucet is a real fast guy. I think Bowe has better speed to get deep. Doucet reminds me of a guy who might end up being a #2 WR in the NFL. Bowe is a #1 guy IMO.

Hart and Addai don't seem to me like they are the same kinds of players either. Hart is short and not all that fast. Addai was bigger and faster. Much more of a do it all back IMO. Hart does not remind me of Addai.

Sweed and Johnson. Johnson was a big play guy waiting to happen. Sweed is a guy who does not catch the ball nearly as well IMO. Also, I'm not certain he has the kind of speed Johnson has. Johnson is a start fast, finish fast player. Sweed does not have that get off the ball speed like Johnson does IMO. Not the same kind of player to me.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by masomenos85

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]McFadden is a stronger runner than Faulk, but both are blessed with exception vision, using pitter-patter feet to get through trash and the "home run" acceleration to separate from defenders past the line of scrimmage. He is an efficient receiver out of the backfield, running precise routes and could even be split wide. He has the arm strength to throw the option pass and can also earn playing time as a kickoff returner, but needs to work on ball-security issues after he had 15 fumbles in 2007, many of them on special teams. He is certainly the best athlete eligible for the 2008 draft and has an array of weapons that will make any offensive coordinator drool. In an imaginative offense, he could be a regular participant in the Pro Bowl.[/FONT]

Wow! don't agree with this. Faulk was more like Sanders in College. McFadden is more like Dickerson to me.

Rampage · 02-20-2008

cromartie-newman comparison is the one that got me

Bob Sacamano · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by masomenos85

2. Leodis McKelvin - R.W. McQuarters

ouch.

masomenos · 02-20-2008

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Here are the full comparisons. I don't agree with all of them either, Im just doing the reporting lol.

Doucet
Like his former teammate, Doucet has valid straight-line quickness and good strength to beat the press and get into his routes. Possibly due to his groin injury, Doucet failed to show the explosion needed to gobble up the defender's cushion in 2007. He needs route refinement, as he will take soft-angle cuts and fails to sink his hips coming out of his breaks. He is an efficient pass catcher, but has become a liability as a kickoff returner, as he struggles to field the ball and lacks patience waiting for his blocks to develop. For a player purported to have "explosive speed to be a go-to receiver," as most scouting reports say, he just seemed to be nothing more than a possession receiver as a senior. He might have better value as a slot receiver or at flanker and might lack the sudden burst or second gear to be effective as a split end.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Hart
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]While Hart has a lot more mileage on his tires coming out of college than Addai did leaving LSU, both players are quick, darting runners with the ability to pound out the tough yardage up the middle or hit the cutback lanes. Addai is a better receiver than Hart, but the Michigan product protects the ball and is a physical blocker who plays with lots of aggression. He's shorter than ideal, but runs at a low pad level and has the leg drive to immediately break arm tackles. Had some injury problems as a senior, thanks to over 1,000 carries during his career, but until then, Hart proved very durable.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Sweed
While Sweed is taller than Johnson and Johnson has better separation ability, both are long striders with a good burst off the line vs. a clean release. He is quick to gobble up the cushion and get behind the defender, but he is not the most polished route runner you will find. With his size and ability to shield the ball from defenders, he does a fine job of getting to the ball in a crowd. However, he must show better concentration skills, as he has left quite a few thrown balls on the ground. When out in front of the defense, he can take the ball to the house, evident by his 20 touchdown catches. If he gets a clean bill of health leading up to the draft, he will be able to secure first-day draft status.
Newman
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Rodgers-Cromartie is slightly faster than Newman, but he needs to show better patience in his play, as he does tend to get a bit out of control at times. Even though he has the speed to stay with receivers deep, he gets a bit reckless in his press-coverage technique and must do a better job of keeping his hands inside the frame when attempting to jam his opponent at the line of scrimmage. He added kickoff returner to his resume as a senior, but needs to be more conscious of securing the ball. Like Newman, he will utilize his quickness to excel in man coverage, but he needs to do a better job as a tackler, as he appears to be an ankle-biter rather than a face-up, wrap-up tackler.
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masomenos · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano

ouch.

lol yeah that's someone no prospect wants to be compared to.

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Like McQuarters, McKelvin is a solid return specialist, even though he does not always play to his timed speed. He needs some technique refinement, but due to a lack of natural power, he is never going to be a physical tackler. He shows willingness in run support, but is better making plays on the move than getting bounced around in tight quarters. Like McQuarters, he runs hot-and-cold with his ball-reaction skills, sometimes looking like Bambi staring down at the headlights of an oncoming truck. McKelvin has the ability to break a game open once he finds a crease on returns. Until he can prove that he can add strength, his immediate value will be on special teams.
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Hoofbite · 02-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano

ouch.

Yeah, being compared to Nelly isn't a good thing.