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02-21-2008
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Originally Posted by masomenos85
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Must be your stupid or puzzled face there.
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02-21-2008
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#17
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jones is also one of the top return men in the nation. he has good hands,great speed and has good vision. he is not a power back but if you watch him you see the vision. he does cut alot of plays outside but when you can, why not?
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02-21-2008
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By the way, if you'd take time to notice, I didn't say all those things could've been said about Dorsett, just some. He had great vision and didn't run upright. He was, however, considered by many to be too small to be an every down back and was considered just a "speed" back. We all know that he started for us for over a decade and retired with pretty good numbers. He was also never hurt. Jones could provide the same type numbers. Who knows.
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02-21-2008
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#19
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Originally Posted by miamicowboy21
Do you people realize jones averaged 9.3 yards a touch this past season. I realize he wasn't starting, but that's impressive considering the SEC is the best conference in college football. Were not asking this guy to be the savior. This guy can cacth out of the backfield and is threat on special teams..... ill take that all day, everyday.
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Do you realize Reggie Bush averaged 8.7 YPC in his last season? He's a terrific RB in the NFL.
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02-21-2008
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#20
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Originally Posted by Star4Ever
By the way, if you'd take time to notice, I didn't say all those things could've been said about Dorsett, just some. He had great vision and didn't run upright. He was, however, considered by many to be too small to be an every down back and was considered just a "speed" back. We all know that he started for us for over a decade and retired with pretty good numbers. He was also never hurt. Jones could provide the same type numbers. Who knows.
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IMO, vision is the KEY word.
ALL great RBs vision. Everyone from TD, to Marcus Allen, to Emmitt, etc.
Does F Jones have the vision to be a terriffic RB? I don't really know, since I don't get a chance to watch much college football over here.
But I'm interested in peoples' opinions.
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02-21-2008
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#21
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Personally I don't think we settle for anyone less than McFadden at the RB position in the first round. And if we don't get him we go WR and CB with our first 2 picks instead.
It's not as if we're vacant at the position as it is. We have Barber. A Pro Bowl Touchdown Rushing Beast. IMO getting McFadden is not as much about complimenting Barber in the running game as it is throwing a hopefully impossible to stop combination of 2 great backs at defenses.
Barber doesn't need any help. That's not the point. All just smoke-screens for us going for the big kill (McFadden) or drafting players we really want in one of our other two needs (cb/wr).
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02-21-2008
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#22
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Originally Posted by Star4Ever
By the way, if you'd take time to notice, I didn't say all those things could've been said about Dorsett, just some. He had great vision and didn't run upright. He was, however, considered by many to be too small to be an every down back and was considered just a "speed" back. We all know that he started for us for over a decade and retired with pretty good numbers. He was also never hurt. Jones could provide the same type numbers. Who knows.
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I honestly just don't see a real comparison between the two other than speed. While Dorsett had speed to bounce it outside it certainly wasn't his only ability. Like you said he started for us for a long time and had a terrific career, but was a complete RB who could hit holes quickly and make cuts from there. It's just something that isn't as readily evident in Jones' game. Where Dorsett would take it outside when the opportunity presented itself, Jones seems to use that as his first option, just sprinting to the outside and trying to turn the corner.
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02-21-2008
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#23
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Originally Posted by masomenos85
Do you realize Reggie Bush averaged 8.7 YPC in his last season? He's a terrific RB in the NFL.
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Reggie bush played in the Pac 10... the last time I checked that's not the SEC. Again felix jones isn't being asked to be a savior here just a backup to spell barber. The guy isn't projected to be a first round pick for nothing.
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02-21-2008
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#24
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Originally Posted by Woods
IMO, vision is the KEY word.
ALL great RBs vision. Everyone from TD, to Marcus Allen, to Emmitt, etc.
Does F Jones have the vision to be a terriffic RB? I don't really know, since I don't get a chance to watch much college football over here.
But I'm interested in peoples' opinions.
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You're completely right about vision being the key. And I don't think Jones has it at all.
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02-21-2008
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#25
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Originally Posted by Star4Ever
While I like Felix Jones and would certainly be happy with selecting him, I'm becoming a bit torn. Do we go after a change of pace explosive back like Jones to team with Barber, or do we go after a more complete back that could replace Barber if he sustained a serious injury, such as Mendenhall or Rice? Tough question. If you could be assured Barber won't get hurt, the choice is simple. However, there is no such assurance. Of course, the biggest thing influencing who we draft is who will still be available.
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Count me in the second (all-around) camp. If the Cowboys are convinced that Barber is not an every down back, then some form of durability is in question. I understand the homerun appeal some of these guys represent.
I'm not questioning Barber's heart by any means. But if the braintrust (minus Lacewell) believes that the load needs to be shared, make sure than the other back isn't too limited in what he can do. If that means giving up a little speed for versatility, I'm okay with that. Whether the team is, we'll know in a couple months.
IF: the biggest little word in the English language.
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02-21-2008
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#26
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Originally Posted by masomenos85
You're completely right about vision being the key. And I don't think Jones has it at all.
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From a lot of the stuff I'm reading on various sites, I'm getting this impression as well . . . . Of course, they are just opinions . . . .
I think Jones would be a nice 3rd down back or change of pace back, but I'm not convinced he could carry the load in case MBIII was injured.
And for a change of pace back/3rd down back, I wouldn't spend a 1st round pick.
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02-21-2008
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#27
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Originally Posted by masomenos85
I just think he's a one trick pony. Speed to the outside. I don't think he's going to be very effective in the NFL. He seems to lack vision, patience and strength. Seems to have bust written all over him to me.
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ever watch him play?
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02-21-2008
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#28
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Originally Posted by baj1dallas
ever watch him play?
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Yes...
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02-21-2008
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#29
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Originally Posted by headhunterroy05
Speed is exactly what we need to compliment Barber. I would be fine with Felix spelling Barber.
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thompson has plenty of speed, a lot of good that does for us. if you want a speed back, i'd much rather have jarjar charles.
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02-21-2008
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#30
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Originally Posted by Cowboys2008
Personally I don't think we settle for anyone less than McFadden at the RB position in the first round. And if we don't get him we go WR and CB with our first 2 picks instead.
It's not as if we're vacant at the position as it is. We have Barber. A Pro Bowl Touchdown Rushing Beast. IMO getting McFadden is not as much about complimenting Barber in the running game as it is throwing a hopefully impossible to stop combination of 2 great backs at defenses.
Barber doesn't need any help. That's not the point. All just smoke-screens for us going for the big kill (McFadden) or drafting players we really want in one of our other two needs (cb/wr).
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Agree...Unless lightning strikes in that 1st round, a RB should fall behind CB and WR in terms of priorities...It's a loaded draft with RBs and would much prefer getting a versatile cutback runner with some speed...Last time we had a runner with 'speed' that couldn't cut was....Julius Jones??? 
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