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Old 04-14-2008   #1
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Default Kiper's 2008 Draft Guide Mock...

Just received it today--

Here it is:

1. Miami-Jake Long, OT Michigan
2. St. Louis-Chris Long, DE Virg
3. Atlanta- Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU
4. Oakland- Darren McFadden, RB Ark
5. KC- Branden Albert, OL Virg
6. NYJ- Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St.
7. NE- Keith Rivers, LB USC
8. Baltimore- Matt Ryan, QB BC
9. Cincinnati- Sedrick Ellis, DT USC
10. New Orleans- Aqib Talib, CB Kansas
11. Buffalo- Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy
12. Denver- Jeff Otah, OT Pitt
13. Carolina- Ryan Clady, OT Boise St.
14. Chicago- Chris Williams, OT Vanderbuilt
15. Detroit- Rashard Mendenhall, RB Ill
16. Arizone- DRC, CB Tenn St.
17. Minnesota- Derrick Harvey, DE Flor
18. Houston- Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon
19. Philly- Devin Thomas, WR Mich St.
20. Tampa Bay- Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida
21. Washington- Philip Merling, DE Clemson
22. Dallas- Felix Jones, RB Arkansas
23. Pitt- Malcolm Kelly, WR Okla
24. Tenn- James Hardy, WR Indiana
25. Seattle- Dustin Keller, TE Purdue
26. Jacksonville- Kentwan Balmer, DT NC
27. San Diego- Gosder Cherilus, OT BC
28. Dallas- DeSean Jackson, WR Cal
29. San Fran- Jerod Mayo, LB Tenn
30. Green Bay- Brandon Flowers, CB Virg Tech
31. NYG- Tyrell Johnson, S Ark St.

Here are the Cowboys other picks:

61. Antoine Cason, CB Arizona
92. Craig Steltz, S LSU
126. Andre' Woodson, QB Kentucky
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I cannot think of a worse draft. Good thing that his mocks suck.
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Brandon Albert is a top 5 pick now? . No one even heard of the guy four months ago.

Hasn't everyone realized that Kiper sucks at this by now? Who pays this guy?
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Brandon Albert is a top 5 pick now? . No one even heard of the guy four months ago.

Hasn't everyone realized that Kiper sucks at this by now? Who pays this guy?
Yeah. I don't think his talent evaluations are terrible, but his Mocks do not compute. My guess is that the teams don't dig him...so they really lead him astray. The guy can be irritating. Gosselin for the DMN usually has a more accurate mock. We'll see his this real one this Sunday and his final one soon after. It's all guessing anyway.
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I dont see how Atlanta would pass up a QB. And Jackson looks too small, i dont want a small wide receiver.
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God, Kiper can't accurately predict a mock for a damn.

This mock is full of FAIL.

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1. Miami-Jake Long, OT Michigan
2. St. Louis-Chris Long, DE Virg
3. Atlanta- Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU
4. Oakland- Darren McFadden, RB Ark
5. KC- Branden Albert, OL Virg <--FAIL
6. NYJ- Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St.
7. NE- Keith Rivers, LB USC
8. Baltimore- Matt Ryan, QB BC
9. Cincinnati- Sedrick Ellis, DT USC
10. New Orleans- Aqib Talib, CB Kansas <--FAIL
11. Buffalo- Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy
12. Denver- Jeff Otah, OT Pitt
13. Carolina- Ryan Clady, OT Boise St.
14. Chicago- Chris Williams, OT Vanderbuilt
15. Detroit- Rashard Mendenhall, RB Ill
16. Arizone- DRC, CB Tenn St.
17. Minnesota- Derrick Harvey, DE Flor
18. Houston- Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon <--FAIL
19. Philly- Devin Thomas, WR Mich St.
20. Tampa Bay- Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida
21. Washington- Philip Merling, DE Clemson
22. Dallas- Felix Jones, RB Arkansas <-- FAIL
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Default Check out this Mock

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-have-some-fun
Check out this Mock.....I don't see Felix Jones lasting till the end of round 2.

Schrager's first round (As of 4/8/2008):

1. Miami Dolphins: Chris Long, DE, Virginia
2. St. Louis Rams: Jake Long, OT, Michigan
3. Atlanta Falcons: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
4. Oakland Raiders: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
6. New York Jets: Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State
7. New England Patriots: Leodis McKelvin, Troy
8. Baltimore Ravens: Ryan Clady, OL, Boise State
9. Cincinnati Bengals: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
10. New Orleans Saints: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
11. Buffalo Bills: Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
12. Denver Broncos: Keith Rivers, LB, USC
13. Carolina Panthers: Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
14. Chicago Bears: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
15. Detroit Lions: Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee
16. Arizona Cardinals: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
17. Minnesota Vikings: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
18. Houston Texans: Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
19. Philadelphia Eagles: DeSean Jackson, WR, Cal
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
21. Washington Redskins: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
22. Dallas Cowboys: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
23. Pittsburgh Steelers: Branden Albert, OG, Virginia
24. Tennessee Titans: Quentin Groves, DE/LB, Auburn
25. Seattle Seahawks: Fred Davis, TE, USC
26. Jacksonville Jaguars: Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
27. San Diego Chargers: Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
28. Dallas Cowboys: Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
29. San Francisco 49ers: Ketwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
30. Green Bay Packers: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
31. New England Patriots: Pick forfeited
32. New York Giants: Kenny Phillips, S, Miami

Second Round:
32. Miami Dolphins: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
33. St. Louis Rams: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
34. Atlanta Falcons: Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
35. Kansas City Chiefs: Sam Baker, OT, USC
36. New York Jets: Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
37. Atlanta Falcons: Dan Connor, LB, Penn State
38. Baltimore Ravens: Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
39. San Francisco 49ers: Anthony Collins, G, Kansas
40. New Orleans Saints: Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
41. Buffalo Bills: Justin King, CB, Penn State
42. Denver Broncos: Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
43. Carolina Panthers: Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
44. Chicago Bears: James Hardy, WR, Indiana
45. Detroit Lions: Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
46. Cincinnati Bengals: Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
47. Minnesota Vikings: Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
48. Atlanta Falcons: Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma
49. Philadelphia Eagles: Tyrell Johnson, S, Arkansas State
50. Arizona Cardinals: Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas
51. Washington Redskins: Early Doucet, WR, LSU
52. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Antwaun Molden, CB, Eastern Kentucky
53. Pittsburgh Steelers: Duane Brown, OG, Virginia Tech
54. Tennessee Titans: Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
55. Seattle Seahawks: Joseph "Red" Bryant, DT, Texas A&M
56. Green Bay Packers: Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
57. Miami Dolphins: Jeremy Zuttah, OT, Rutgers
58. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
59. Indianapolis Colts: Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State
60. Green Bay Packers: Darrell Robertson, DE, Georgia Tech
61. Dallas Cowboys: Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
62: New England Patriots: Curtis Lofton, LB, Oklahoma
63. New York Giants: Xavier Abidi, LB, Virginia Tech
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What did Kipers mock draft look like before last years draft?.........Anybody?
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Brandon Albert is a top 5 pick now? . No one even heard of the guy four months ago.

Hasn't everyone realized that Kiper sucks at this by now? Who pays this guy?



lol u guys have a smiley for everything
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Old 04-14-2008   #10
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-have-some-fun
Check out this Mock.....I don't see Felix Jones lasting till the end of round 2.

Schrager's first round (As of 4/8/2008):

1. Miami Dolphins: Chris Long, DE, Virginia
2. St. Louis Rams: Jake Long, OT, Michigan
3. Atlanta Falcons: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
4. Oakland Raiders: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
6. New York Jets: Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State
7. New England Patriots: Leodis McKelvin, Troy
8. Baltimore Ravens: Ryan Clady, OL, Boise State
9. Cincinnati Bengals: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
10. New Orleans Saints: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
11. Buffalo Bills: Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
12. Denver Broncos: Keith Rivers, LB, USC
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Come'on!

Felix Jones available at #61? Give me a break.
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If Jones is available at 61 then there is something almost every team knows that we don't. No Ray Rice or Chris Johnson in the top two. Surprises me a little but not a lot.
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You guys might not like his mock, but he had our needs down cold:

RB,WR,CB,S,QB is pretty much how I'd like to see us spend our first 5 picks.

I might prioritize WR, CB, RB. But we need competition for Roy and QB depth.
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Kiper's never been known for having particularly good mock drafts. Least that's my take on the guy..........IMO/FWIW...

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Kiper's never been known for having particularly good mock drafts. Least that's my take on the guy..........IMO/FWIW...
Yep, thats the truth...I think they showed he's one of the least accurate on both the mocks and the top-100

I got his draft guide for probably 10-15yrs or so before stopping last yr, and he has alot of good info...he's just not a "mock" guy, which I couldnt care less about when I look at these things

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Kiper is not a "Mocker", he only does it cause it's expected of him and it gets ESPN page hits. He's much better at analyzing and comparing players.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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