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because they hate
anyone read this book?
http://www.learnoutloud.com/Sale-Sec...hey-Hate/21832
[FONT=Arial]Brigitte Gabriel lost her childhood to militant Islam. In 1975 she was ten years old and living in Southern Lebanon when militant Muslims from throughout the Middle East poured into her country and declared jihad against the Lebanese Christians. Lebanon was the only Christian influenced country in the Middle East, and the Lebanese Civil War was the first front in what has become the worldwide jihad of fundamentalist Islam against non-Muslim peoples. For seven years, Brigitte and her parents lived in an underground bomb shelter. They had no running water or electricity and very little food; at times they were reduced to boiling grass to survive. [/FONT]
Because They Hate is a political wake-up call told through a very personal memoir frame. Brigitte warns that the US is threatened by fundamentalist Islamic theology in the same way Lebanon was -- radical Islam will stop at nothing short of domination of all non-Muslim countries. Gabriel saw this mission start in Lebanon, and she refuses to stand silently by while it happens here. Gabriel sees in the West a lack of understanding and a blatant ignorance of the ways and thinking of the Middle East. She also points out mistakes the West has made in consistently underestimating the single-mindedness with which fundamentalist Islam has pursued its goals over the past thirty years.
Fiercely articulate and passionately committed, Gabriel tells her own story as well as outlines the history, social movements, and religious divisions that have led to this critical historical conflict.
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interesting viewpoints from someone who've directly lived under it. but i'm sure we just misunderstand the fanaticals.
iceberg
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Last edited by iceberg : 04-16-2008 at 10:57 AM.
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Good article. Good to see them being dealt with in Iraq, Afghanistan, and "God willing," soon to be Iran.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon88
Good article. Good to see them being dealt with in Iraq, Afghanistan, and "God willing," soon to be Iran.
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i do want to get the book and read through it now. a friend here at work got it and i may borrow his when he's done.
iceberg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon88
Good article. Good to see them being dealt with in Iraq, Afghanistan, and "God willing," soon to be Iran.
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That point of view is certainly in line with the god's teachings.
victory is ours
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04-17-2008
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So where is Sultan claiming that its all our fault?
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Where men are men and the sheep are scared!
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
So where is Sultan claiming that its all our fault?
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beats me. has anyone read this book or heard of it before?
iceberg
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Originally Posted by iceberg
beats me. has anyone read this book or heard of it before?
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No sorry...much as I run my mouth on here I admit that political books or books about the middle east are not on my desired reading list. 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iceberg
beats me. has anyone read this book or heard of it before?
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I've seen her interviewed several times on Fox News. She is a very intelligent woman and has a great perspective on this whole thing. Interesting to listen to as well. You may be able to find some of the interviews archived at fox news.com.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
No sorry...much as I run my mouth on here I admit that political books or books about the middle east are not on my desired reading list. 
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normally me either. which is why you see me read part of an article when i'm in a hurry and cherry pick my answers : )
this just seems like a great perspective to look into.
cajun - thanks for the input - i'll see what i can find!
iceberg
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Another perspective positing that a "radical" segment of a religious group contrary to "christianity" wants to destroy us.
i'll pass.
The United States just needs to stay vigilant and put the interest of it's people ahead of individual interests and everything will take of itself.
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04-17-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickgreen58
Another perspective positing that a "radical" segment of a religious group contrary to "christianity" wants to destroy us.
i'll pass.
The United States just needs to stay vigilant and put the interest of it's people ahead of individual interests and everything will take of itself.
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So a first hand account means nothing?

"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickgreen58
Another perspective positing that a "radical" segment of a religious group contrary to "christianity" wants to destroy us.
i'll pass.
The United States just needs to stay vigilant and put the interest of it's people ahead of individual interests and everything will take of itself.
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It's a bit simplistic to think it's all religion. Religion is simply the convenient tool for ideologues to push their own political agenda. Religion is powerful and I doubt there's much like that moves people to action, but the core of the conflict is political ideologies at odds.
And do they want a greater base of power for their own ideology? Of course they do. How can they do such a thing? Diminsh the power and influence of the United States prevailing ideology.
Her words have merit.
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Mick Green 58
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
So a first hand account means nothing?

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That's an extremely appropriate picture.
Anyone that still needs, as you declare, "a first hand" account that "extremists" would like to see the United States in ruin is either credulous or have had their head stuck in the sand.
Saying that "militant islam" wants to shape the world in thier own view and a sizable portion of said view is getting rid of the United States is kind of like predicting that the sun will rise:

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04-17-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vta
It's a bit simplistic to think it's all religion. Religion is simply the convenient tool for ideologues to push their own political agenda. Religion is powerful and I doubt there's much like that moves people to action, but the core of the conflict is political ideologies at odds.
And do they want a greater base of power for their own ideology? Of course they do. How can they do such a thing? Diminsh the power and influence of the United States prevailing ideology.
Her words have merit.
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it's to a degree like a modern day ann frank.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickgreen58
That's an extremely appropriate picture.
Anyone that still needs, as you declare, "a first hand" account that "extremists" would like to see the United States in ruin is either credulous or have had their head stuck in the sand.
Saying that "militant islam" wants to shape the world in thier own view and a sizable portion of said view is getting rid of the United States is kind of like predicting that the sun will rise:

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what part of "kill the infidel" that the FANTATICAL (got that sultan, fanatical?) muslem follows confuses you?
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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