Nors Dallas Mock

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by Nors

DeSean Jackson flat out is uncoverable there. He is a flat out weapon that gets separation and can outrun anyone. He also has great hands. He will be a 1st round pick - JMO early 20's

yet antoine cason covered him like a blanket

[Manwiththeplan]

Originally Posted by Nors

6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!

he didn't go to usc

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Biggems

yet antoine cason covered him like a blanket

That's because Cason is a "zone corner."

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

he didn't go to usc

I concur.........he didnt go to either USC.....the one on Cali or the one in Carolina.....

[junk]

Everybody likes to bag on Nors (and usually deservedly so), but I'd definitely take a flyer on Santos later Day 2 or as an UDFA.

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by junk

Everybody likes to bag on Nors (and usually deservedly so), but I'd definitely take a flyer on Santos later Day 2 or as an UDFA.

why........cause u are all for having noodle armed backups?

give me Josh Johnson anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over Santos

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Biggems

why........cause u are all for having noodle armed backups?

give me Josh Johnson anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over Santos

I'd be happy with either. I think Johnson's going to go earlier, though, so Santos would be the better pick for us.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Nors

DeSean Jackson flat out is uncoverable there. He is a flat out weapon that gets separation and can outrun anyone. He also has great hands. He will be a 1st round pick - JMO early 20's

And yet, he averaged under 12 yards per catch; doesn't sound like he put up too much in the way of YAC to me... hell, he wasn't even his team's leading receiver last year, that would be Lavelle Hawkins...

As for his "great hands", every scouting report I've read mentions that he has a problems with the drops... here's what NFL Draft Countdown lists as his negatives:

Undersized and doesn't have the bulk you look for...Inconsistent and disappeared from games at times...Is not very strong or physical...Will drop the occasional ball due to lack of focus...A sub par blocker...Can still improve as a route runner...May have some typical star receiver character concerns...Durability might be a concern.

NFL Draft Bible has this to say about his negatives:

Cons: While Jackson has done a good job of bulking up, he needs to add more if he is going to be a playmaker or even contribute on offense. Durability is an issue. Even if he does bulk up, don’t expect him to run over many defenders or to be listed among the top blocking wide receivers. Jackson needs to work on his route running skills after relying too much on his raw athleticism to beat defensive backs in the Pac-10, which will not be enough at the next level. He was not the most consistent receiver while at Cal, at times dropping the easy pass and disappearing in games when he was not involved early. Jackson has allegedley been flagged by NFL personnel for having questionable character.

CBS Sports describes his negatives this way:

Had no injury problems until 2007, but with his small frame, he might not be able to withstand constant punishment in the many roles he plays and might be better served concentrating on receiving with limited involvement on special teams … Has very good speed, but is still a bit raw running routes and must improve his transition a bit … Is a willing blocker, but with his lack of bulk, he is risking further injury and also gets pushed back into the pocket too much when asked to block in-line (seems slow to fit and drop weight in front of the defender for better side and mirror) … Has an array of moves to get a clean release, but must keep his hands active when a press-coverage defender attacks his body … Has great confidence in his skills, but he'll be encouraged to quiet the on-field chatter at the next level, as physical defenders will make him pay … Relies on his quickness to get to the ball, but must show more aggression combating for the high throws in a crowd and hears [View Full Quote]footsteps …

Football's Future puts it this way:

Size is the major issue with Jackson. He does not appear to be as big as his listed size. He lacks the bulk to go over the middle and take a hit, and can be taken out of a play by physical corners. His height is also only average, and he may have trouble going up and getting the ball against corners because of his overall lack of size.

These are concerns that won't matter all that much as a punt returner, but as a receiver, he will never be good in the NFL... at his size, ALL he's capable of being is a slot receiver, but slot receivers need to run precise routes, which he does not, and they need to catch everything thrown their way, which he does not... they also need to be able to work the middle of the field, and that's not his thing, really...

Indeed, the ability to make the highlight reel catch, then drop an easy throw, makes him sound like a smaller Brandon Lloyd (especially when CBS Sports talks about "hearing footsteps")... throw in the character and durability issues, and this is a first rounder??

Not if I'm drafting, he's not... I have no use for small WRs who can't block, and lack focus... and I'm not drafting a kick returner in the first round...

If you were talking about Jackson in the third or fourth round, his potential on special teams would justify that, and anything he gave a team as a receiver would be a bonus...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Nors

Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous

See Fassano pick.

"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??

The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...

I like my draft - lets see how it plays out

Your draft is "rediculous"...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Nors

Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous

See Fassano pick.

"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??

And who in God's name is "Amodel"??

You want us to think you're some kind of draft expert, some kind of Cowboys' expert, but you don't even know the players' NAMES... LOL...

The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...

When we drafted Fasano, the only surprise was drafting a TE that high... we had little in the way of depth behind Witten at that point; now, we have all the quality depth at TE that a team could possibly want...

But if the Boys DID go TE early, it would likely be one of the two TEs that we know they've shown some interest in, Martellus Bennett or Fred Davis... you see, Rucker pretty much sucks as a blocker, which is a basic part of being a TE...

I like my draft - lets see how it plays out

Your draft is "rediculous"...

[junk]

Originally Posted by Biggems

why........cause u are all for having noodle armed backups?

give me Josh Johnson anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over Santos

I'd take Josh Johnson over him as well, but he probably goes in the third or so.

Late day 2 or UDFA, I'd be all for it. What's to lose?

Like Brad Johnson isn't noodle armed at this point. Romo is a great QB, but arm strength isn't his forte either.

Have you seen ever seen Santos play or are you just going off of what others are saying?

[ThatsmyQB]

Originally Posted by silverbear

"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??

And who in God's name is "Amodel"??

You want us to think you're some kind of draft expert, some kind of Cowboys' expert, but you don't even know the players' NAMES... LOL...

The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...

When we drafted Fasano, the only surprise was drafting a TE that high... we had little in the way of depth behind Witten at that point; now, we have all the quality depth at TE that a team could possibly want...

But if the Boys DID go TE early, it would likely be one of the two TEs that we know they've shown some interest in, Martellus Bennett or Fred Davis... you see, Rucker pretty much sucks as a blocker, which is a basic part of being a TE...



[View Full Quote]Your draft is "rediculous"...

The only reason Fasano was a surprise was cause the public was kept in the dark about us switchign to a 2 T.E. base formation, once we found out post draft, the pick really was no surprise then.
There's NO WAY we pick a T.E. in this draft, we have our TE.'s set in stone and no need to pcik one AT ALL!
We got the league's best Witten, a 2nd round good T.E. in Fasano backing him up and Curtis showed he's a good weapon also, I would fall of my chair if we picked a T.E. and SOMEONE should get fired if we do!

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by silverbear

"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??

And who in God's name is "Amodel"??

You want us to think you're some kind of draft expert, some kind of Cowboys' expert, but you don't even know the players' NAMES... LOL...

The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...

When we drafted Fasano, the only surprise was drafting a TE that high... we had little in the way of depth behind Witten at that point; now, we have all the quality depth at TE that a team could possibly want...

But if the Boys DID go TE early, it would likely be one of the two TEs that we know they've shown some interest in, Martellus Bennett or Fred Davis... you see, Rucker pretty much sucks as a blocker, which is a basic part of being a TE...



[View Full Quote]Your draft is "rediculous"...

I'm Amodel you know what I mean and I do my little turn on the catwalk, on the catwalk, on the catwalk yeah, I shake my little tush on the catwalk.........

[ajk23az]

Originally Posted by Nors

Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous

See Fassano pick.

Just like it was rediculous Romo was better than Henson - rediculous!

I like my draft - lets see how it plays out

Honestly, quit using the word "we" when you post on this board.

[ThatsmyQB]

Originally Posted by ajk23az

Honestly, quit using the word "we" when you post on this board.

Why???
Everyone says that, like if I say we're playing the Skins this weekend, they're like are you on the team?
Well, NO, BUT without the "ME", there would be no Cowboys!

EVERY FAN can say "WE" when talkin about his team, because as a group of fans, we are the reason they are the Cowboys, WITHOUT US, their would be NO DALLAS COWBOYS, without the fans, the Cowboys would NOT EXIST!

So, for that reason, we CAN say "WE" when talkin about our team, cause it's a FACT that their would be no team to call The Dallas Cowboys if not for "WE"!