Grizzly kills trainer - Dallas Cowboys Forum

StanleySpadowski · 04-23-2008

www.baltimoresun.com/news//nation/bal-bear0423,0,03444476.story?=rss

The trainer, Stephan Millar, was known to some as "Punishment", founder of the old CPND board on what's now the scout network.

Those who frequented that site or the old rant boards know he was a quality guy who treated visitors fairly and will be sorely missed.

Rowdy · 04-23-2008

The words "Grizzly" and "trainer" don't seem to be two words that mix well IMO.

**trickblue** · 04-23-2008

That Dave Halperin is surly at times isn't he...

vta · 04-23-2008

It's not a matter of if, but of when.

Wild animals will always be wild animals and people should just stop messing with them. It's not funny anymore, it's not interesting, I don't want to see some dope wrestling a wild animal; that's an archaic holdover of some silly vaudeville 'strongman' act; I don't care to see a wild animal on display as 'exotic'. Seeing a lion sitting in a 12x12 cage is boring and a waste of time.

Seeing an elephant with a dopey hat on it's head is well... dopey. Then when they air some special, they question why the animal went wild and stomped a bunch of people. Couldn't be the dopey hat and alien beings raucously shouting around it to some clown music, could it?

Studying them in their environment is one thing and is very intersting, taking them from where they naturally live and making them do stupid things isn't and more often than not, costly in more ways than one.

This is one thing we need to evolve away from...

DallasCowpoke · 04-23-2008

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Pepper spray was used to subdue and contain the bear,

They couldn't send the peppermill guy around before the bear started his dinner!?

REDVOLUTION · 04-23-2008

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Originally Posted by vta

It's not a matter of if, but of when.

Wild animals will always be wild animals and people should just stop messing with them.

Agreed.

A few years back a trainer/tour guide was showing how nice the tiger/lion was and her arm was in the cage and he was liking it and she was saying "see.... see...." he is "RIPPED her arm off".

Apparently they lick and then bite. She didnt know this??

ROMOSAPIEN9 · 04-24-2008

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

The words "Grizzly" and "trainer" don't seem to be two words that mix well IMO.

It all makes a turd.

ROMOSAPIEN9 · 04-24-2008

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Originally Posted by vta

It's not a matter of if, but of when.

Wild animals will always be wild animals and people should just stop messing with them. It's not funny anymore, it's not interesting, I don't want to see some dope wrestling a wild animal; that's an archaic holdover of some silly vaudeville 'strongman' act; I don't care to see a wild animal on display as 'exotic'. Seeing a lion sitting in a 12x12 cage is boring and a waste of time.

Seeing an elephant with a dopey hat on it's head is well... dopey. Then when they air some special, they question why the animal went wild and stomped a bunch of people. Couldn't be the dopey hat and alien beings raucously shouting around it to some clown music, could it?

Studying them in their environment is one thing and is very intersting, taking them from where they naturally live and making them do stupid things isn't and more often than not, costly in more ways than one.

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I agree with you on this 100% vta. Do we really need zoo's and wildlife parks anymore? I say look'em it up on the internets, or go to their natural habitats.

Also, I'm not a tree hugger or such. But isn't putting these animals in zoo's the same as putting them in jail for the rest of their lives for essentialy no crime? Is that silly? I dunno.

kristie · 04-24-2008

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

The words "Grizzly" and "trainer" don't seem to be two words that mix well IMO.

no they don't.

Chief · 04-24-2008

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Originally Posted by ROMOSAPIEN9

It all makes a turd.

ConcordCowboy · 04-24-2008

Leave the Frickin animals in the wild were they belong.

I really don't feel sorry for this guy or people like him when this kind of stuff happens.

And the part that pisses me off is they will probably kill this Bear because it did what comes natural to it...because some idiots have to make money off this kind of crap.

DallasCowpoke · 04-24-2008

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Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy

And the part that pisses me off is they will probably kill this Bear because it did what comes natural to it...because some idiots have to make money off this kind of crap.

IMO, better to dispose of a few dangerous, man-eating bears, than incinerate 1000's of innocent couches!

joseephuss · 04-24-2008

Some zoos have many animals that were rescued from private owners. These animals may not last long if they were sent back into the wild. If those private owners had left the animals in the wild, there would be no problem. Some zoos can be beneficial for those types of cases, but I do agree zoos should not be out there taking animals out of their natural habitats.

StanleySpadowski · 04-24-2008

I started this thread because myself and probably a few here lost an "internet friend" and since he wasn't really active any longer some may not have known.

I PM'd Hos before I started it because I didn't want this to turn into a "you shouldn't mess with animals" thread and he assured me that this board was too classy for that to happen.

Looks like he was wrong.

DallasCowpoke · 04-24-2008

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Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski

I started this thread because myself and probably a few here lost an "internet friend" and since he wasn't really active any longer some may not have known.

I PM'd Hos before I started it because I didn't want this to turn into a "you shouldn't mess with animals" thread and he assured me that this board was too classy for that to happen.

Looks like he was wrong.

No offense, but you start a thread about a captive wild animal, who mauls his keeper/trainer, then expect that people won't weigh-in on BOTH sides of the issue, is naive at best.