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04-30-2008
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Abstinence Only Not working, Feds Say After Study Found One In Four Girls Had STD
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7010767688
Abstinence Only Not working, Feds Say After Study Found One In Four Girls Had STD
Amy Beeman - AHN
Washington, D.C. (AHN) -- The federal government is deciding whether it will continue to fund abstinence only education in schools since the CDC released findings this year that one in four girls has a sexually transmitted disease.
Another reason some feel abstinence only programs do not work is that the U.S has one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in developed countries, at about 750,000 a year.
The BBC in Washington reported that 17 states have already declined the funding.
According to CBS news, 14 states require abstinence and contraception education to be taught in schools. Nineteen states require abstinence only to be the rule, but will allow contraception education to be taught. The other 17 states do not relegate how the school boards handle sexual education.
Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards was quoted by the BBC saying,"This national program which has wasted $1.5 billion of tax money is a failure and our teens are paying the price. We've been wasting money on programs that don't work and we're seeing the consequences every single day."
Roger Norman, abstinence only proponent said abstinence is about more than sex. He was quoted by the BBC as saying, "Self control leads to a happy, joyful life. If we can learn to control the most basic of drives - the sex drive - for good, then we can control drugs, gangs, alcohol and abusive anger."
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If you want to teach your kids abstinence only then that is your right to do that in your own home.
If they are using yours and my tax dollars to support sex ed, then it should be a more thorough approach than jusst an abstinence only program.
Of course I have always said, if they are teaching any sex ed in schools, then parents have the right to have their child not attend and opt out of those classes.
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04-30-2008
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Dark Days
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Abstinence only programs in PUBLIC schools is idiotic and only pushed by certain groups who are in denial of what high school kids do. But hey, we all know that lord forbid you teach about birth and std prevention it will only lead to more of both births and stds...I guess it MAY lead to more, just not as many as abstinence only programs.
<---Sits back and ways for a group to tell me a bunch of bull now.
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04-30-2008
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RIP Weldon "Pops" Parkhill....I will miss you my friend
 R.I.P. Renee I miss you sis
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04-30-2008
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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So what this study is saying that 1 in 4 girls have stds, Right?
Which is 25%.
And as for the other 75%, what? They are STD free?
So we are going to lay the whole blame on Abstinence programs because 25% got a disease.
Yep, makes sense to me. 
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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04-30-2008
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Its the BBC anyway. You know anything on America will be put by them in the worst possible way.
You notice that they do not mention all the other problems they cannot blame on abstinence.
Las Cruces NM
White Sands NM
Where men are men and the sheep are scared!
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04-30-2008
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Banned
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Doesn't work. Just makes people curious.
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04-30-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeagermeister
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Needs to trim his fingernails and shave. And the eyebrow. He's old man. It's over.
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04-30-2008
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Convicted of Gnostical Turpitude
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
So what this study is saying that 1 in 4 girls have stds, Right?
Which is 25%.
And as for the other 75%, what? They are STD free?
So we are going to lay the whole blame on Abstinence programs because 25% got a disease.
Yep, makes sense to me. 
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Furthermore, Cajun, the article never posits a direct a correlation between Abstinence Only Education and the 1 in 4 STD statistic.
In fact, the article explicitiy that all 50 states allow for contraception education. Fourteen states actually require contraception education, and 17 states have no regulations one way or the other.
In my opinion, the real problem here is a lack of parental involvement. The idea that highly personal subjects such as sex and intimacy can be properly addressed by a state-mandated education course is utterly ludicrous.
Unfortunately, our culture tends to glorify and romanticize promiscuous lifestyles, even to the point of implying that abstinance is abnormal. Only parental involvement can counteract these messages.
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05-01-2008
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Banned
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One in four girls, which means guess what fellas? 
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05-01-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy
Furthermore, Cajun, the article never posits a direct a correlation between Abstinence Only Education and the 1 in 4 STD statistic.
In fact, the article explicitiy that all 50 states allow for contraception education. Fourteen states actually require contraception education, and 17 states have no regulations one way or the other.
In my opinion, the real problem here is a lack of parental involvement. The idea that highly personal subjects such as sex and intimacy can be properly addressed by a state-mandated education course is utterly ludicrous.
Unfortunately, our culture tends to glorify and romanticize promiscuous lifestyles, even to the point of implying that abstinance is abnormal. Only parental involvement can counteract these messages.
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Wow, the reads like a spinning top.
Parental involvement to suppress human nature-- good going pops.
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05-01-2008
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Dark Days
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon88
Needs to trim his fingernails and shave. And the eyebrow. He's old man. It's over.
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05-01-2008
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
Its the BBC anyway. You know anything on America will be put by them in the worst possible way.
You notice that they do not mention all the other problems they cannot blame on abstinence.
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So you only focused on the source? There are several articles on this topic and I just grabbed one. It didn't matter to me that it was from the BBC. If I had posted another article not from the BBC, would it matter that much to you? Same numbers and opinions in those non-BBC articles.
Congress is holding hearings on these topics and whether to further fund these programs. They are deciding on what to do with tax dollars that you and I pay. Congress is not relying on anything from the BBC. They are quoting numerous different studies.
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05-01-2008
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Convicted of Gnostical Turpitude
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben_n_austin
Wow, the reads like a spinning top.
Parental involvement to suppress human nature-- good going pops.
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I realize self-control can be a difficult task, but there are definitely some elements of human nature that should be suppressed...such as the urge to murder, for instance.
All things considered, I think my did pops did a good job. 
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05-01-2008
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Lost in the Woods
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Don't indulge in the pleasures of the flesh, kids.
There, problem solved. 
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05-01-2008
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Mr. Buckeye
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Teaching abstinence only in schools is going against these kids DNA and works as well as this time tested favorite...

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