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08-13-2008
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Winning Isn't News
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, July 07, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Iraq: What would happen if the U.S. won a war but the media didn't tell the American public? Apparently, we have to rely on a British newspaper for the news that we've defeated the last remnants of al-Qaida in Iraq.
London's Sunday Times called it 'the culmination of one of the most spectacular victories of the war on terror.' A terrorist force that once numbered more than 12,000, with strongholds in the west and central regions of Iraq, has over two years been reduced to a mere 1,200 fighters, backed against the wall in the northern city of Mosul.
The destruction of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) is one of the most unlikely and unforeseen events in the long history of American warfare. We can thank President Bush's surge strategy, in which he bucked both Republican and Democratic leaders in Washington by increasing our forces there instead of surrendering.
We can also thank the leadership of the new general he placed in charge there, David Petraeus, who may be the foremost expert in the world on counter-insurgency warfare. And we can thank those serving in our military in Iraq who engaged local Iraqi tribal leaders and convinced them America was their friend and AQI their enemy.
Al-Qaida's loss of the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis began in Anbar Province, which had been written off as a basket case, and spread out from there.
Now, in Operation Lion's Roar the Iraqi army and the U.S. 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment is destroying the fraction of terrorists who are left. More than 1,000 AQI operatives have already been apprehended.
Sunday Times reporter Marie Colvin, traveling with Iraqi forces in Mosul, found little AQI presence even in bullet-ridden residential areas that were once insurgency strongholds, and reported that the terrorists have lost control of its Mosul urban base, with what is left of the organization having fled south into the countryside.
Meanwhile, the State Department reports that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government has achieved 'satisfactory' progress on 15 of the 18 political benchmarks — a big change for the better from a year ago.
Things are going so well that Maliki has even for the first time floated the idea of a timetable for withdrawal of American forces. He did so while visiting the United Arab Emirates, which over the weekend announced that it was forgiving almost $7 billion of debt owed by Baghdad — an impressive vote of confidence from a fellow Arab state in the future of a free Iraq.
But where are the headlines and the front-page stories about all this good news? As the Media Research Center pointed out last week, 'the CBS Evening News, NBC Nightly News and CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 were silent Tuesday night about the benchmarks' that signaled political progress.
The war in Iraq has been turned around 180 degrees both militarily and politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD, Fox News Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to consider this historic event a big story.
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08-13-2008
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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If anyone needs anymore proof of the leftist bias in the American news they need to have their heads examined.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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08-13-2008
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Harry Reid and the Democrats declared the war a defeat. The media took his word for it and that is all the media needed/wanted to hear. Democrats like it when the US "loses" a war, it turns the Democrats on big time.
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08-13-2008
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Dark Days
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ninja
Harry Reid and the Democrats declared the war a defeat. The media took his word for it and that is all the media needed/wanted to hear. Democrats like it when the US "loses" a war, it turns the Democrats on big time.
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Have you ever considered you do as much damage to your party of choice and turn away many from your party of choice by saying such silly things?
Just curious if you aware of it.
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08-13-2008
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Have you ever considered you do as much damage to your party of choice and turn away many from your party of choice by saying such silly things?
Just curious if you aware of it.
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You realize he is closer to being right than wrong though, right?
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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08-13-2008
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Dark Days
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
You realize he is closer to being right than wrong though, right?
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Only if you follow the republican party.
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08-13-2008
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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Only if you follow the republican party.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say the Dems love it when we lose. But you have to admit they will jump on anything slightly negative regarding this war. Yet they ignore anything positive
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Dark Days
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Originally Posted by heavyg
I wouldn't go as far as to say the Dems love it when we lose. But you have to admit they will jump on anything slightly negative regarding this war. Yet they ignore anything positive
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I don't disagree they will jump on things...both parties do that and sometimes to the extreme.
However as you said...they don't love it if we would lose. That is just idiotic to say.
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08-13-2008
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Only if you follow the republican party.
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"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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08-13-2008
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Dark Days
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
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Great picture of you. 
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08-13-2008
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Great picture of you. 
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Oh, nice come back. 
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyg
I wouldn't go as far as to say the Dems love it when we lose.
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Nope ...... but I would say that about the hardcore Liberals.
As long as it does not physically threaten them or their families I believe they would love us to lose the war in Iraq so that they could say "we told you"
victory is ours
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08-13-2008
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Dark Days
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
Oh, nice come back. 
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Says the man who used the icon as a comeback in the first place.
Is a Touche in order?
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08-13-2008
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The Proletariat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Only if you follow the republican party.
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We can't declare victory just yet, but I don't think you can pretend it's simply a Republican thing to have noticed all of the vitriol and negativity, from politicians and the media alike, concerning this.
Every utterance of dissent has been trumpeted. Every death reported as a rebuke and, yes politicians calling the effort a complete failure, talking this nonsense well before proper etiquette would dictate.
If this in fact does turn out to be a success and a boon for U.S security and interests, alot of people are going to look like complete *****.
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08-13-2008
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Originally Posted by vta
We can't declare victory just yet, but I don't think you can pretend it's simply a Republican thing to have noticed all of the vitriol and negativity, from politicians and the media alike, concerning this.
Every utterance of dissent has been trumpeted. Every death reported as a rebuke and, yes politicians calling the effort a complete failure, talking this nonsense well before proper etiquette would dictate.
If this in fact does turn out to be a success and a boon for U.S security and interests, alot of people are going to look like complete *****.
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Shakes head.
I do not disagree about the negativity.
I do disagree that Dems (as a whole not just a demented individual) LOVE TO LOSE WARS.
That is just idiotic right wing spin no matter how you slice it.
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