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11-11-2004
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Looking forward, this is how we improve ....
We only improve with quality players. Players who can make an impact.
I'm not saying anything profound.
How many games are we going to win with Dixon, Wiley, EG (and this stage of his career), etc.?
With respect to the draft, I think we are going to get two relatively high first round picks. Instead of getting cute, we should seriously consider just choosing the best players.
This team needs some impact players badly. Guys other teams have to account for. Guys that make the opposing team coaches sit up late at night and try to figure out how to account for them (either on defense or offense).
Currently on offense, we don't have EVEN ONE of those guys.
On defense, we only have RW.
IMO, we are not going to make improvement vs. the GOOD teams until we address this issue. Turnovers, big plays, lack of penalties, etc. are important as well in determining winners versus losers, but it's the players in the end who make the ultimate difference.
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11-11-2004
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NFL Historian
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Kaneohe, Hawaii |
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Originally Posted by Woods
We only improve with quality players. Players who can make an impact.
I'm not saying anything profound.
How many games are we going to win with Dixon, Wiley, EG (and this stage of his career), etc.?
With respect to the draft, I think we are going to get two relatively high first round picks. Instead of getting cute, we should seriously consider just choosing the best players.
This team needs some impact players badly. Guys other teams have to account for. Guys that make the opposing team coaches sit up late at night and try to figure out how to account for them (either on defense or offense).
Currently on offense, we don't have EVEN ONE of those guys.
On defense, we only have RW.
[View Full Quote]IMO, we are not going to make improvement vs. the GOOD teams until we address this issue. Turnovers, big plays, lack of penalties, etc. are important as well in determining winners versus losers, but it's the players in the end who make the ultimate difference.
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I'd say Witten would/could be one.
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11-11-2004
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It's a shame that Jones and Morgan are injured because they add much needed speed to our offense. Hopefully when they both return to the field they can stay healthy and we can see exactly what we have talent wise. If they pan out, then we have some good speed between Witten, Jones and Morgan, with a possession WR in KJ.
On defense, I would say teams account for Glover and Williams. Glover still draws double teams and would be even more effective if we could get some production from the the other DT (Carson) and DE (Wiley) spots. Williams has been less effective, but playing him in coverage more to cover up our problems at safety and corner has slowed him down some.
We definitely can't mess up this next draft and free agency period if we want to take the steps needed to become a contender.
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11-11-2004
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Originally Posted by Woods
We only improve with quality players. Players who can make an impact.
I'm not saying anything profound.
How many games are we going to win with Dixon, Wiley, EG (and this stage of his career), etc.?
With respect to the draft, I think we are going to get two relatively high first round picks. Instead of getting cute, we should seriously consider just choosing the best players.
This team needs some impact players badly. Guys other teams have to account for. Guys that make the opposing team coaches sit up late at night and try to figure out how to account for them (either on defense or offense).
Currently on offense, we don't have EVEN ONE of those guys.
On defense, we only have RW.
[View Full Quote]IMO, we are not going to make improvement vs. the GOOD teams until we address this issue. Turnovers, big plays, lack of penalties, etc. are important as well in determining winners versus losers, but it's the players in the end who make the ultimate difference.
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The single biggest improvement we could make is a premier pass rusher. That was the missing link that put us in contention with Charles Haley and it's the missing link now. We knew it last year and signed Wiley. Turns out the guy he replaced has more sacks and pressures than he does (5 and 19). Next year you can bet we will have a someone that can put pressure on the QB. The whole defense will be better. Just like the Steelers offense suddenly got better when Rothlesberger replace Maddox. The pass coverage will be better, the third down conversions will be better, etc.
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11-11-2004
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Originally Posted by Woods
Currently on offense, we don't have EVEN ONE of those guys.
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Jason Witten (45-488-3TD) just gave you the middle finger.
But we do need to try and take the best available player.
How they fit on the team, need at position, character, etc. should all be secondary criteria for selecting players, IMO.
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11-11-2004
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BPA is definitely the right way to go. We have glaring needs at DE, DT, CB, Safety ... and holes at QB, RB, and WR. I say take the best possible player with both our picks. Nothing cute. Don't trade down for a lesser player and gain an additional 4th rounder. Not worth it.
I think the biggest impact we could have is if Hensen and Jones show their goods, and turn into quality NFL players. That would scratch two needs off immediately.
Then we can concentrate on DE, DT, and CB ... all Defense with our first two picks.
We can land a quality FS later on in the draft or in FA.
The NFL is also about depth. Injuries play such a key part. No more Special Teams players in day 2. We need to set day 2 up for depth and future players. LB's, FS's, FB's are good candidates for day 2 picks.
But we need immediate impact on day 1. We need a run stuffer to plug the middle, and a pass rushing DE who can create havoc. Those two would make a serious impact on opposing teams.
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11-11-2004
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Originally Posted by Bluefin
Jason Witten (45-488-3TD) just gave you the middle finger.
But we do need to try and take the best available player.
How they fit on the team, need at position, character, etc. should all be secondary criteria for selecting players, IMO.
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You may be correct on Witten.
He's really improved his performance as this season has worn on. Let's see how he fares vs. Philly and Baltimore before annointing him an impact player. But hopefully we can all say by season's end he truly is an impact player without any hesitation.
We definitely need to add at least 1 more top skill player on offense.
I hoping Henson is the real deal . . . .
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11-11-2004
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There's alot of talk about getting that edge rusher in a DE in the draft. He would be wasted in our scheme. Time for a new DC who knows how to use the abilities of a pass rusher.
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11-11-2004
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Originally Posted by Eddie
There's alot of talk about getting that edge rusher in a DE in the draft. He would be wasted in our scheme. Time for a new DC who knows how to use the abilities of a pass rusher.
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But is there really a premier pass rusher in the upcoming draft?
From what I've been reading, several of the names being thrown around are good (i.e., the kids from Gerogia and BC) but maybe not in the same "class" as J Peppers when he came out.
I don't watch much college football, so you'll have to enlighten me . . . .
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11-11-2004
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How 'Bout Dem Cowboys
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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i think both bill and jerry will learn from this lastoff-season and bring in some talent. i know bill and zimmer have taken a lot of heat lately but i still think that talent is most important and we just don't have it right now. parcells is still a top 3 coach in this league and can get it done. he just needs the players to do it.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. - Tom Landry
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11-11-2004
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Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by da_boyz_mk
i think both bill and jerry will learn from this lastoff-season and bring in some talent. i know bill and zimmer have taken a lot of heat lately but i still think that talent is most important and we just don't have it right now. parcells is still a top 3 coach in this league and can get it done. he just needs the players to do it.
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You really think so? They gave Wiley a $16 M contract.
Yet you trust these guys to go out and spot talent?
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