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11-17-2004
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Federal Agent
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If we draft Rod Wright that high I'll drive to Valley Ranch and kick JJ's a$$.
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11-18-2004
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Dark Days
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would we take a SS in the 2nd round....we got enough SS's on the team...we need a true FS. 
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11-18-2004
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Banned
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So Ahmad Brooks is better than Derrick Johnson?
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
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Location: | Orlando, FL |
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- Leinart ain’t going #1. If he does, that’s a huge mistake. Doesn’t have a lot of physical skills. Rodgers is a much much better QB and has much more upside.
- I doubt you’ll see the Panthers take a WR since they’ll have Steve Smith coming back and Keary Colbert is playing really well right now. They need help with their pass rush and O-Line first.
- Tennessee won’t go LB. They’ll go D-Line, probably defensive end since the loss of Kearse has screwed things up.
- I would think Washington would look at O-Line, but a DE makes sense as well.
- I think Oakland takes a look at Derrick Johnson because he’s that incredible athlete that Al Davis covets.
- Mike Williams was expected to go in the teens at the earliest in last year’s draft. He was widely criticized by scouts, many of whom felt that Keary Colbert was the reason for his success. The scouts appear to have a point as Colbert is playing really well in his rookie year. So, what’s the logic behind having Williams in the top 10 picks with all of this is happening AND he hasn’t played football in over a year?
- Cleveland will probably look at CB, OT, OG, and DT before they look to get a DE as Kenard Lang is really solid.
- Arizona will most likely go RB. They like McCown. Their O-Line is horrible as well.
- Derrick Johnson won’t fall that far below Brooks if at all (I do love Brooks though).
- I doubt the Bears go after Clayton. They want a real burner at WR. If they went after Clayton, it would most likely be in the 2nd round.
- Houston giving up on Dominick Davis already? I don’t think so.
- Detroit needs more help at CB than safety.
- I think Cincy goes after a DT or LB over a CB in the first round.
- I think Spears goes higher after putting up a great combine. Just my personal feeling.
- I would think Indy would continue to try and build their defense instead of getting another RB.
- San Diego’s O-Line is playing fine, except for center, but their center is only in their second year. I think they’ll look more at a DE/OLB type and some more cornerback/secondary help.
Rich………
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
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My idea of a great draft based on the current order:
1)Ahmad Brooks--I just don't think he'll be picked ahead of Derrick Johnson, but you never know.
*Trade down 10th with G.B to pick up an additional second.
2) Carlos Rogers--The guy has great size, makes plays and will solidfy the secondary for the next decade.
3)Albert Means--The guy doesn't appear on GBN's list, but he's a load at 335lbs and would be the perfect nose tackle in a 3-4.
4)Terrance Murphy--Nice size, blazing speed, good work ethic...sounds like a KJ replacement to me.
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11-18-2004
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | State of Grace |
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Good Lord. Mike Williams is there when we pick and we pass? Don't think so. Take mike WIlliams and then if Rolle or Jackson is there when we pick next take one. Rolle first then Jackson. THis isn't that hard.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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11-18-2004
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Gif Dude
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | N. Tex |
Posts: | 1,849 |
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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
would we take a SS in the 2nd round....we got enough SS's on the team...we need a true FS. 
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Amen brother
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich
Tennessee won’t go LB. They’ll go D-Line, probably defensive end since the loss of Kearse has screwed things up.
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I can give you some info there since I'm also a Titans fan. They drafted 3 DE's high last year. 2 are doing ok, one has yet to play with a broken foot but may be about to come back. The hurt guy was said to be in the best shape to start at the beginning of the season. Kevin Carter is still looking good at his age. They've used him at DT and DE, but he's probably better at DE.
Some Titans fans think we may draft a DT, but our young DT's like Randy Starks are looking pretty good. Albert Haynseworth is having a Pro Bowl type year at DT.
Now if they use their pick as a best player available type deal, and it's a d-lineman, sure it's possable, but unlikely. D-line is argueably the strongest point of that team now.
They've lost one starting LB before the season started with an ACL. He wasn't the fastest OLB to start with, now what speed will he come back at? The starting MLB has had injury problems in the past and has only played one game so far this year.
As of now, I'd expect OT, LB, or maybe a S or CB taken 1st since they look like the biggest priorities.
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
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Mike Williams was expected to go in the teens at the earliest in last year’s draft. He was widely criticized by scouts, many of whom felt that Keary Colbert was the reason for his success. The scouts appear to have a point as Colbert is playing really well in his rookie year. So, what’s the logic behind having Williams in the top 10 picks with all of this is happening AND he hasn’t played football in over a year?
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What? Mike Williams would have been not only the first WR taken last year but would have been a top 5 pick as well. I do not know where you live but I'm in L.A and I have never ever heard anyone with half a brain say that Kerry Kolbert made Mike Williams. If anything it was the other way around. The only knock and it is not much of a knock on Mike is his speed.
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
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I still can't believe Starks went in the third round....that was a pure steal!!
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada
I still can't believe Starks went in the third round....that was a pure steal!!
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You got that right. I saw him play and kick *** in college, still kinda odd that he dropped so far. It may be his age, he's only 20, but they said he was already amazingly strong. Dude could squat close to 800 lbs. He'd be a big help to the Boys I believe if he was with them.
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11-18-2004
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by jcollins28
What? Mike Williams would have been not only the first WR taken last year but would have been a top 5 pick as well. I do not know where you live but I'm in L.A and I have never ever heard anyone with half a brain say that Kerry Kolbert made Mike Williams. If anything it was the other way around. The only knock and it is not much of a knock on Mike is his speed.
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Don't htink he would have passed up both Fitzgerald and Row Williams. Both have good size and better speed.
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11-19-2004
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Senior Member
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Location: | Texas |
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If Mike Williams is on the board at pick #8 and we don't pick him ...I will join Rack on his drive to Valley Ranch. 

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11-19-2004
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Senior Member
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For all the people that seem to be in passionate love with Mike Williams...
Consider the fact that he won't have played in over 15 months when he's drafted. He won't have taken any sort of hit during that time period. The best case scenario is he's spent some time running track, lifting, and catching passes from some hired goon like Todd Marinovich. So you get all giddy and throw a top 10 or top 5 pick at the kid come April, and do you know what you are getting when training camp rolls around? What are the odds that the guy pulls a hamstring or something much worse? How long has it been since he's read coverage or worked on his blocking?
The kid has real potential, but he's certainly a risk. Give him an 8 figure signing bonus and you've done a lousy job at managing that risk. He better beat the increased odds he's created for himself or you are looking at a gaping hole in your rookie class.
It would still shock me to see him picked over Braylon Edwards. Edwards will measure better at the combine/workouts and will have a senior year of impressive stats that Williams will lack. I'd love to see Edwards with a star on his helmet, but I wouldn't mind Williams either. Just give me Williams between 12 and 25 in the first round so I'm not so financially committed.
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