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Old 11-17-2004   #1
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Default Mock draft from GBN

First round
1 San Francisco Matt Leinart QB Southern California
2 Miami Aaron Rodgers QB California
3 Carolina Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
4 Tampa Bay Cedric Benson RB Texas
5 Tennessee Ahmad Brooks LB Virginia
6 Washington Mathias KiwanukaDE Boston College
7 Dallas (from Buffalo) Antrel Rolle CB Miami
8 Oakland Mike Williams WR Southern California
9 Kansas City Marlin Jackson CB Michigan
10 Dallas Rodrique Wright* DT Texas
11 Cleveland Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
12 Arizona Andrew Walter QB Arizona State
13 New Orleans Derrick Johnson LB Texas
14 Chicago Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
15 Houston Carnell WilliamsRB Auburn
16 Detroit Thomas Davis* FS Georgia
17 Cincinnati Corey Webster CB LSU
18 Seattle Elton Brown OG Virginia
19 St. Louis David Pollack DE Georgia
20 Green Bay Marcus Spears DE LSU
21 Minnesota Orien Harris DT Miami
22 San Diego(from NYG) Andrew WhitworthOT LSU
23 Denver Heath Miller TE Virginia
24 San Diego A.J. Hawk LB Ohio State
25 New York Jets Carlos Rogers CB Auburn
26 Jacksonville Marcus McNeill OT Auburn
27 Baltimore Alex Barron OT Florida State
28 Indianapolis Ronnie Brown RB Auburn
29 Atlanta Wesley Britt OT Alabama
30 New England Kevin Burnett LB Tennessee
31 Philadelphia Abdul Hodge LB Iowa
32 Pittsburgh Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma

Second round
33 Philadelphia(from Miami) Shaun Cody DT Southern California
34 San Francisco Anttaj HawthorneDT Wisconsin
35 Carolina Michael Munoz OT Tennessee
36 Tennessee Charlie Frye* QB Akron
37 New Orleans (from Wash) Brodney Pool FS Oklahoma
38 Buffalo Max Jean-Gilles OT Georgia
39 Oakland DeAngelo WilliamRB Memphis
40 Kansas City Dan Cody DE Oklahoma
41 Dallas Donte Nicholson SS Oklahoma
42 Cleveland Winston Justice OT Southern California
43 Tampa Bay C.J. Brooks OT Maryland
44 Green Bay (from NO) Odell Thurman LB Georgia
45 Chicago David Baas OG Michigan
46 Houston Travis Johnson DT Florida State
47 Detroit Adam Jones CB West Virginia
48 Cincinnati Mike Patterson DT Southern California
49 Arizona Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech
50 St. Louis Darrent WilliamsCB Oklahoma State
51 Green Bay Jammal Brimmer SS UNLV
52 Minnesota Daryl BlackstockLB Virginia
53 New York Giants Anthony Alabi OT Texas Christian
54 Seattle Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
55 San Diego Matt Roth DE Iowa
56 New York Jets Dan Buenning OG Wisconsin
57 Jacksonville Loren Howard DE Northwestern
58 Baltimore Terrance Murphy WR Texas A&M
59 Indianapolis Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State
60 Denver Chris Canty DE Virginia
61 Atlanta J.R. Russell WR Louisville
62 New England Khalif Barnes OT Washington
63 Philadelphia Frank Gore RB Miami
64 Pittsburgh Michael Boley LB Southern Mississippi


I can live with this draft (CB,DT and SS)
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Old 11-17-2004   #2
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If we draft Rod Wright that high I'll drive to Valley Ranch and kick JJ's a$$.
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would we take a SS in the 2nd round....we got enough SS's on the team...we need a true FS.


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So Ahmad Brooks is better than Derrick Johnson?
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- Leinart ain’t going #1. If he does, that’s a huge mistake. Doesn’t have a lot of physical skills. Rodgers is a much much better QB and has much more upside.

- I doubt you’ll see the Panthers take a WR since they’ll have Steve Smith coming back and Keary Colbert is playing really well right now. They need help with their pass rush and O-Line first.

- Tennessee won’t go LB. They’ll go D-Line, probably defensive end since the loss of Kearse has screwed things up.

- I would think Washington would look at O-Line, but a DE makes sense as well.

- I think Oakland takes a look at Derrick Johnson because he’s that incredible athlete that Al Davis covets.

- Mike Williams was expected to go in the teens at the earliest in last year’s draft. He was widely criticized by scouts, many of whom felt that Keary Colbert was the reason for his success. The scouts appear to have a point as Colbert is playing really well in his rookie year. So, what’s the logic behind having Williams in the top 10 picks with all of this is happening AND he hasn’t played football in over a year?

- Cleveland will probably look at CB, OT, OG, and DT before they look to get a DE as Kenard Lang is really solid.

- Arizona will most likely go RB. They like McCown. Their O-Line is horrible as well.

- Derrick Johnson won’t fall that far below Brooks if at all (I do love Brooks though).

- I doubt the Bears go after Clayton. They want a real burner at WR. If they went after Clayton, it would most likely be in the 2nd round.

- Houston giving up on Dominick Davis already? I don’t think so.

- Detroit needs more help at CB than safety.

- I think Cincy goes after a DT or LB over a CB in the first round.

- I think Spears goes higher after putting up a great combine. Just my personal feeling.

- I would think Indy would continue to try and build their defense instead of getting another RB.

- San Diego’s O-Line is playing fine, except for center, but their center is only in their second year. I think they’ll look more at a DE/OLB type and some more cornerback/secondary help.


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My idea of a great draft based on the current order:

1)Ahmad Brooks--I just don't think he'll be picked ahead of Derrick Johnson, but you never know.

*Trade down 10th with G.B to pick up an additional second.

2) Carlos Rogers--The guy has great size, makes plays and will solidfy the secondary for the next decade.

3)Albert Means--The guy doesn't appear on GBN's list, but he's a load at 335lbs and would be the perfect nose tackle in a 3-4.

4)Terrance Murphy--Nice size, blazing speed, good work ethic...sounds like a KJ replacement to me.
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Good Lord. Mike Williams is there when we pick and we pass? Don't think so. Take mike WIlliams and then if Rolle or Jackson is there when we pick next take one. Rolle first then Jackson. THis isn't that hard.


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would we take a SS in the 2nd round....we got enough SS's on the team...we need a true FS.
Amen brother
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Tennessee won’t go LB. They’ll go D-Line, probably defensive end since the loss of Kearse has screwed things up.
I can give you some info there since I'm also a Titans fan. They drafted 3 DE's high last year. 2 are doing ok, one has yet to play with a broken foot but may be about to come back. The hurt guy was said to be in the best shape to start at the beginning of the season. Kevin Carter is still looking good at his age. They've used him at DT and DE, but he's probably better at DE.

Some Titans fans think we may draft a DT, but our young DT's like Randy Starks are looking pretty good. Albert Haynseworth is having a Pro Bowl type year at DT.

Now if they use their pick as a best player available type deal, and it's a d-lineman, sure it's possable, but unlikely. D-line is argueably the strongest point of that team now.

They've lost one starting LB before the season started with an ACL. He wasn't the fastest OLB to start with, now what speed will he come back at? The starting MLB has had injury problems in the past and has only played one game so far this year.

As of now, I'd expect OT, LB, or maybe a S or CB taken 1st since they look like the biggest priorities.
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Mike Williams was expected to go in the teens at the earliest in last year’s draft. He was widely criticized by scouts, many of whom felt that Keary Colbert was the reason for his success. The scouts appear to have a point as Colbert is playing really well in his rookie year. So, what’s the logic behind having Williams in the top 10 picks with all of this is happening AND he hasn’t played football in over a year?
What? Mike Williams would have been not only the first WR taken last year but would have been a top 5 pick as well. I do not know where you live but I'm in L.A and I have never ever heard anyone with half a brain say that Kerry Kolbert made Mike Williams. If anything it was the other way around. The only knock and it is not much of a knock on Mike is his speed.
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I still can't believe Starks went in the third round....that was a pure steal!!
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I still can't believe Starks went in the third round....that was a pure steal!!
You got that right. I saw him play and kick *** in college, still kinda odd that he dropped so far. It may be his age, he's only 20, but they said he was already amazingly strong. Dude could squat close to 800 lbs. He'd be a big help to the Boys I believe if he was with them.
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What? Mike Williams would have been not only the first WR taken last year but would have been a top 5 pick as well. I do not know where you live but I'm in L.A and I have never ever heard anyone with half a brain say that Kerry Kolbert made Mike Williams. If anything it was the other way around. The only knock and it is not much of a knock on Mike is his speed.
Don't htink he would have passed up both Fitzgerald and Row Williams. Both have good size and better speed.
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If Mike Williams is on the board at pick #8 and we don't pick him ...I will join Rack on his drive to Valley Ranch.

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For all the people that seem to be in passionate love with Mike Williams...

Consider the fact that he won't have played in over 15 months when he's drafted. He won't have taken any sort of hit during that time period. The best case scenario is he's spent some time running track, lifting, and catching passes from some hired goon like Todd Marinovich. So you get all giddy and throw a top 10 or top 5 pick at the kid come April, and do you know what you are getting when training camp rolls around? What are the odds that the guy pulls a hamstring or something much worse? How long has it been since he's read coverage or worked on his blocking?

The kid has real potential, but he's certainly a risk. Give him an 8 figure signing bonus and you've done a lousy job at managing that risk. He better beat the increased odds he's created for himself or you are looking at a gaping hole in your rookie class.

It would still shock me to see him picked over Braylon Edwards. Edwards will measure better at the combine/workouts and will have a senior year of impressive stats that Williams will lack. I'd love to see Edwards with a star on his helmet, but I wouldn't mind Williams either. Just give me Williams between 12 and 25 in the first round so I'm not so financially committed.
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