Zogby has race within 3 points/now 12pt difference - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Cajuncowboy · 10-19-2008

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1597

Obama's lead shrinks to 2.7 points and shrinking.

Maikeru-sama · 10-19-2008

People are fooling themselves if they think Barack Obama has this race sewn up.

This race is going to be very close and it could be like Gore/Bush in 2000.

I wouldn't be suprised if we don't know who the POTUS-elect is after November 4th.

Cajuncowboy · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Maikeru-sama

People are fooling themselves if they think Barack Obama has this race sewn up.

This race is going to be very close and it could be like Gore/Bush in 2000.

I wouldn't be suprised if we don't know who the POTUS-elect is after November 4th.

I agree with you there.

I'll bet Ohio is going to be a real mess.

**trickblue** · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Maikeru-sama

People are fooling themselves if they think Barack Obama has this race sewn up.

This race is going to be very close and it could be like Gore/Bush in 2000.

I wouldn't be suprised if we don't know who the POTUS-elect is after November 4th.

I agree wholeheartedly... and no matter who wins, the other side will claim "fraud" and "disenfranchised"...

yesfan · 10-19-2008

here are some new polls http://www.411mania.com/politics/col...,-National.htm

Maikeru-sama · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy

I agree with you there.

I'll bet Ohio is going to be a real mess.

The FBI needs to camp out in Ohio and throw some folks in jail. What happened up there was fraud, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by trickblue

I agree wholeheartedly... and no matter who wins, the other side will claim "fraud" and "disenfranchised"...

Yep, things are going to get real ugly on this board. Im thinking about pulling a Silverbear and banishing myself during the month of November, but I doubt I will have the fortitude to carry through cuz its too dang fun

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I don't think there will be mass riots and things like that. I do think there will be protests and maybe isolated pockets of violence.

However, if this thing goes the way of the Gore/Bush Election, I could see the National Guard being brought into some areas.

Right now is a perfect storm of Race, Slipping Economy and politics.

adamc91115 · 10-19-2008

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html

Has charts of who's leading and such.

Obama's lead has shrunk quickly in the last week. Right now its on the fastest downturn since right before McCain led after the RNC.

This race won't be decided until sometime on the morning of Nov. 5. I don't even believe the polls on Nov. 3 will be accurate.

Cajuncowboy · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by adamc91115

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html

Has charts of who's leading and such.

Obama's lead has shrunk quickly in the last week. Right now its on the fastest downturn since right before McCain led after the RNC.

This race won't be decided until sometime on the morning of Nov. 5. I don't even believe the polls on Nov. 3 will be accurate.

Notice that when it's "Likely Voters" His lead starts to shrink. It will more and more as we go. I honestly don't think the majority of American's will want this guy and his socialist views as a President.

Beast_from_East · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1597

Obama's lead shrinks to 2.7 points and shrinking.

The problem with this is that it is just a barometer for the popular vote, doesnt really mean much.

If you want to know who is going to be President, look at the battleground state polls which are very favorable to Obama right now.

Obama may not win the popular vote (especially if the lead is down to 3%), but in terms of the Electorial College, this race is not even close. McCain is not contesting any blue states right now and Kerry lost by 1 state.

Thus, Obama really only has to win 1 red state to win the election. It could be Ohio, Missouri, Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, Virginia, ect.

JUST TURN ONE RED STATE BLUE AND OBAMA WINS.

adamc91115 · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

The problem with this is that it is just a barometer for the popular vote, doesnt really mean much.

If you want to know who is going to be President, look at the battleground state polls which are very favorable to Obama right now.

Obama may not win the popular vote (especially if the lead is down to 3%), but in terms of the Electorial College, this race is not even close. McCain is not contesting any blue states right now and Kerry lost by 1 state.

Thus, Obama really only has to win 1 red state to win the election. It could be Ohio, Missouri, Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, Virginia, ect.

JUST TURN ONE RED STATE BLUE AND OBAMA WINS.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ral_count.html

If you look at the national average on that page you will see how the state polls take about a week to catch up to the national average.

masomenos · 10-19-2008

The election will, likely, come down to three states: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Whoever wins two of those states will probably win the election. Obama would still have a chance if he lost two of those, but it would be an uphill battle.

theebs · 10-19-2008

but but but

Zogby is based in Utica, NY. With all the evil liberals and communists, shouldnt his polls be taken with a grain of salt or is it okay when it helps out your personal opinion.

**trickblue** · 10-19-2008

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but but but

Zogby is based in Utica, NY. With all the evil liberals and communists, shouldnt his polls be taken with a grain of salt or is it okay when it helps out your personal opinion.

I've never seen that argument here...

Zogby is greatly respected around these parts...

theebs · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by trickblue

I've never seen that argument here...

Zogby is greatly respected around these parts...

he is a good guy so is his family.

I made many fruit baskets for him at the holidays!

adamc91115 · 10-19-2008

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Originally Posted by masomenos85

The election will, likely, come down to three states: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Whoever wins two of those states will probably win the election. Obama would still have a chance if he lost two of those, but it would be an uphill battle.

I would say McCain HAS to win 2 out of 3 in order to have a chance. If he loses 2 of the 3 its over.