jason white, why isn't he in any of the mock drafts

[jimmy40]

The same reason Josh Heupel wasn't.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Henson7

he looks pretty good to me..if Leinhart is seen as a # 1 pick I can't see why White isn't up there with him. what's the difference? I can understand if his injuries make him a liability or bad investment..but as for skill I don't see anything wrong with him. All the great NFL players surely were great college players sometime ..a good college player should make a good professonal..and he's supposedly the best college player.

Scouts are looking at abilities and White does not have the arm and neither did the 2 QB before White yet they all succeeded as College QB but did not have the arm to make it as Pros. I like White and hope he gets a chance to prove himself on the field but scouts are looking at physical skills and what kind of upside they see in a player moving to the next level. At best White will be a day 2 pick

[mr.jameswoods]

Because he plays behind a great offensive line who provides him with more than 10 seconds to pass the ball. It doesn't help that he plays against relatively weak opponents sans Texas. Jason White disappointed a lot of NFL scouts in the Big 12 Championship and the Sugar Bowl last year. He just showed that he couldn't handle the blitz. And he hasn't really done anything to show that he is capable of handling the blitz this season; just ask Texas. White lacks the arm strength for the NFL game. He has more arm strength than Josh Heupel and Nate Hybl by far but that isn't saying much.

but I will agree with you that Leinart doesn't look that impressive either. USC is Florida West. Leinart plays in a system that makes their QB's look a lot better than they are. I can complete a 5 yard wheel route and then look amazing when that receiver gets another 40 yards after the catch.

[Waffle]

I can see some of you have no clue about Jason White.

He is a sixth year Senior who gained his extra year of eligiblity due to medical reasons. He's had reconstructive surgery to repair torn ACLs in both knees, however, he has not suffered any injury to the knees since their repair. In fact, he has played every game for OU for two complete seasons.

He has a much better arm than people give him credit for. Comparing his arm strength to that of Josh Heupel's is laughable.

White has actually become fairly mobile for a guy with two repaired ACLs. He's not going to get any faster though, believe me. He did wear knee braces last season and was noticably slower.

Jason White is a winner. He is dead on accurate and EXTREMELY intelligent on the football field. White also reads defenses and look off receivers better than anyone in college football. His 30TD to 4 INT ratio speaks for itself. Granted, he does play in a great system and that's going to help his draft stock. The opposite effect happened to Chris Simms, who should have been drafted higher than the 3rd had he not played in an arguably poor offensive system.

But with all that said...because of his knee injuries and the fact that pro scouts don't think he has a "rocket arm", he's risky. I have heard that he could go anywhere from the 3rd round to the 6th. It would be a major shock to see him go anywhere in the first two rounds, but that's what they said about Quincy Carter.

A third round pick is not far-fetched however because of the obvious lack of QB depth in the NFL and you can believe somebody will take a chance on him.

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by Waffle

I can see some of you have no clue about Jason White.

He is a sixth year Senior who gained his extra year of eligiblity due to medical reasons. He's had reconstructive surgery to repair torn ACLs in both knees, however, he has not suffered any injury to the knees since their repair. In fact, he has played every game for OU for two complete seasons.

He has a much better arm than people give him credit for. Comparing his arm strength to that of Josh Heupel's is laughable.

White has actually become fairly mobile for a guy with two repaired ACLs. He's not going to get any faster though, believe me. He did wear knee braces last season and was noticably slower.

[View Full Quote]Jason White is a winner. He is dead on accurate and EXTREMELY intelligent on the football field. White also reads defenses and look off receivers better than anyone in college football. His 30TD to 4 INT ratio speaks for itself. Granted, he does play in a great system and that's going to help his draft stock. The opposite effect happened to Chris Simms, who should have been drafted higher than the 3rd had he not played in an arguably poor offensive system.

But with all that said...because of his knee injuries and the fact that pro scouts don't think he has a "rocket arm", he's risky. I have heard that he could go anywhere from the 3rd round to the 6th. It would be a major shock to see him go anywhere in the first two rounds, but that's what they said about Quincy Carter.

A third round pick is not far-fetched however because of the obvious lack of QB depth in the NFL and you can believe somebody will take a chance on him.

Excellent post!

[mr.jameswoods]

Originally Posted by Waffle

I can see some of you have no clue about Jason White.

He is a sixth year Senior who gained his extra year of eligiblity due to medical reasons. He's had reconstructive surgery to repair torn ACLs in both knees, however, he has not suffered any injury to the knees since their repair. In fact, he has played every game for OU for two complete seasons.

He has a much better arm than people give him credit for. Comparing his arm strength to that of Josh Heupel's is laughable.

White has actually become fairly mobile for a guy with two repaired ACLs. He's not going to get any faster though, believe me. He did wear knee braces last season and was noticably slower.

[View Full Quote]Jason White is a winner. He is dead on accurate and EXTREMELY intelligent on the football field. White also reads defenses and look off receivers better than anyone in college football. His 30TD to 4 INT ratio speaks for itself. Granted, he does play in a great system and that's going to help his draft stock. The opposite effect happened to Chris Simms, who should have been drafted higher than the 3rd had he not played in an arguably poor offensive system.

But with all that said...because of his knee injuries and the fact that pro scouts don't think he has a "rocket arm", he's risky. I have heard that he could go anywhere from the 3rd round to the 6th. It would be a major shock to see him go anywhere in the first two rounds, but that's what they said about Quincy Carter.

A third round pick is not far-fetched however because of the obvious lack of QB depth in the NFL and you can believe somebody will take a chance on him.

What have you said that none of us agree with? I said his arm strength is by far stronger than that of Josh Heupel. When he has time in the pocket, White makes very good decisions and demonstrates very good intelligence. Your description of White is dead on. And you are right his mobility is that not bad but like you said, his arm strength isn't NFL quality and he has yet to demonstrate he can handle a quality defense blitzing him. LSU and Kansas St just made White look silly last yea and that's putting it mildly. And White didn't do anyting against their best opponent this year in Texas. Josh Heupel did a much better job recognizing the blitz than Jason White but Josh lacked the arm strength, size and athleticism White had.

And a lot of people will disagree with me on this but I think the teams aside from Oklahoma and Texas in the Big 12 South are overrated. I think their rank is inflated. I want to see Jason White have a big game against an Auburn or USC type of defense.

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by mr.jameswoods

LSU and Kansas St just made White look silly last yea and that's putting it mildly.

James.

Let me put two knee braces on you and chase you around the football field. I will give you a 3 second head start and I will catch you each and everytime beating you silly at every opportunity.

This I can guarantee.


Now after digesting this post. Do you see why Jason had no chance agaist those D's wearing that Terminator gear?

[Waffle]

Originally Posted by mr.jameswoods

What have you said that none of us agree with? I said his arm strength is by far stronger than that of Jason White. Your description of White is dead on. And you are right his mobility is that not bad but like you said, his arm strength isn't NFL quality and he has yet to demonstrate he can handle a quality defense blitzing him. LSU and Kansas St just made White look silly last yea and that's putting it mildly. And White didn't do anyting against their best opponent this year in Texas.

And a lot of people will disagree with me on this but I think the teams aside from Oklahoma and Texas are overrated in the Big 12 South. I think their rank is inflated. I want to see Jason White have a big game against an Auburn or USC type of defense.

I too would like to see him have a big game against the type of opponents you mentioned. And I also agree with your Big 12 South assessment. If OU makes it to the Orange Bowl and he does well, his draft stock will obviously rise.

(BTW, my post was directed at the posters who think White should be up there with Linehart on the NFL radar screen as well as those who think he sucks or is a Huepel replica. I hadn't seen your keen analysis before posting. Sorry! )

[mr.jameswoods]

Originally Posted by Dallas

James.

Let me put two knee braces on you and chase you around the football field. I will give you a 3 second head start and I will catch you each and everytime beating you silly at every opportunity.

This I can guarantee.


Now after digesting this post. Do you see why Jason had no chance agaist those D's wearing that Terminator gear?

So what do you want from me? Do you want to me to tell you that Jason White should wear a big fat handicap sticker on the front of his helmet so the defense will see that and give him an extra 5 seconds to throw the ball. Unfortunately, there is no affirmative action for handicapped players in the NFL otherwise Peter, the Bubble Boy, would wear a flag so defenses wouldn't tackle him when he played tailback.

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by mr.jameswoods

So what do you want from me? Do you want to me to tell you that Jason White should wear a big fat handicap sticker on the front of his helmet so the defense will see that and give him an extra 5 seconds to throw the ball. Unfortunately, there is no affirmative action for handicapped players in the NFL otherwise Peter, the Bubble Boy, would wear a flag so defenses wouldn't tackle him when he played tailback.

Of course not. I am just stating the obvious. In your previous post it didnt seem like you were taking into consideration the hardware he was wearing thus his problems escaping an aggressive rush. Let me mention one other thing. We all know Oklahoma did not even have a running game until late in the LSU game. That O was a pure passing attack last year. This year Jason has shown better mobility because he is healthy and w/ Peterson folks now have to respect the run. With AD in the backfield this year that buys Jason at least 1 second of more protection before the D can react to a pass play.

[mr.jameswoods]

Originally Posted by Waffle

I too would like to see him have a big game against the type of opponents you mentioned. And I also agree with your Big 12 South assessment. If OU makes it to the Orange Bowl and he does well, his draft stock will obviously rise.

(BTW, my post was directed at the posters who think White should be up there with Linehart on the NFL radar screen as well as those who think he sucks or is a Huepel replica. I hadn't seen your keen analysis before posting. Sorry! )

My bad, I actually saw who you were directing your comments too so my apologies there. Yeah, I hope White has a big game against one of those opponents. I think it was his handling of the blitz that concerned NFL scouts more than his perceived lack of NFL arm strength. The good thing is that one can learn how to read the blitz so a patient team may select him in the 4th-6th round.

[mr.jameswoods]

Originally Posted by Dallas

Of course not. I am just stating the obvious. In your previous post it didnt seem like you were taking into consideration the hardware he was wearing thus his problems escaping an aggressive rush. Let me mention one other thing. We all know Oklahoma did not even have a running game until late in the LSU game. That O was a pure passing attack last year. This year Jason has shown better mobility because he is healthy and w/ Peterson folks now have to respect the run. With AD in the backfield this year that buys Jason at least 1 second of more protection before the D can react to a pass play.

Sorry Dallas, I was kidding and giving you a hard time too. I should have denoted that somehow But yeah, the guy obviously sufferred from those knee injuries which was tragic because he was having great years prior to those injuries. Those ACL tears came at a very inopportune time. But if you go back and read my post, I wasn't really that critical of his mobility. I was critical of his slow reads when facing the blitz. He seems to panic at times when faced with the blitz. I think his mobility has been suprisingly decent. I'm not that worried about his mobility.

[InmanRoshi]

Think Danny Wuerffel with possibly two degenerative knee injuries, and its not hard to see why he's not listed as a top NFL prospect.

[Avery]

Reminds me a lot of one Chris Weinke (though Weinke was 27 when he graduated).

[royhitshard]

Originally Posted by maloy

simple, he sucks.

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF SUCKS?