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Old 02-22-2009   #1
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Default Don Banks combine column CNNSI - Belichick talking evaluating safetys (bu bye Roy)

- In assessing this year's crop of defensive backs, Belichick was fairly expansive about the changing role of the safety position in the NFL.

"The safety position is becoming more and more a corner position in the NFL,'' Belichick said. "There was a time when some of the safeties, particularly the strong safeties, fit more almost like linebackers than they did as defensive backs. That's changed gradually, but now to the point where the defensive backs a lot of times have to cover either wide receivers or tight ends who are very, very good in the passing game. So the demands of that position have changed and we have to change the evaluation of them.

Nobody can argue Belichick knows defense. Sounds like unless Roy W can play LB, he has outlived his usefulness here. The guy cant cover a man hole cover.
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I think he still has a part-time role as a runner stopper in short yardage situations. Other than that, he needs to be on the bench.
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Well part time players should not make what Roy makes. It's time to go or re-do your contract if you want to stay.
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I think he still has a part-time role as a runner stopper in short yardage situations. Other than that, he needs to be on the bench.
Would he want to do that?
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Whats the cap hit if he is cut or traded?

Anyone know?
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Whats the cap hit if he is cut or traded?

Anyone know?
We save 2.2 million if he's cut or traded.I think it's saving 10 million over the next two years or something crazy like that if he's cut this year.
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We save 2.2 million if he's cut or traded.I think it's saving 10 million over the next two years or something crazy like that if he's cut this year.
Wow!!

Something's gotta give. He can't make that kind of money for what he contributes.
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LOL, I love how every offseason there is always a question about Roy's cap hit.
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I've been saying it for 3 years, back when everyone was blaming the scheme.

And NFL safety these days has to cover. It doesn't matter if he's free or strong. It's a fact that you can't scheme/wish/hope/pray away. The game is too spread out now and there's too many athletic pass catching TE's. NFL offensive coordinators are paid a lot of money to figure out ways to get safeties like Roy Williams in mismatches. There's nowhere to hide.

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Old 02-22-2009   #10
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If he stays, his contract needs redone. Right now he is stealing Jerry money.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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see ya Roy.
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Frankly I see a time when you have 3 CBs starting and only 1 Safety.
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You know, it's kind of strange that college football has been a little ahead of the NFL lately.

Colleges were doing a lot of this several years ago, including when Roy Williams was playing a hybrid position at OU.

More recently, colleges are going almost exclusively to spread offenses, and we are gradually seeing more and more of that in the NFL too.

But I think Roy can still play. I think his strengths can still be used on a football team. I wonder what he would do as a LB, but even if he stays at S, I think he can still have a role.

So I hope that Roy does get to stick around, and I hope that the coaches can find a way to use him.
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how do you keep a guy around who cant cover or tackle? Maybe I should get on Irvins reality show cuz I cant cover or tackle either, maybe there is is a roster spot for me.
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If he still lit people up it would be a different story but he doesnt even do that.
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