Do we still draft a safety with our 2nd rounder?

[SLATEmosphere]

Originally Posted by 41gy#

I always forget Chip Vaugn. He's rated right behind Moore. Bunting has him at number 81. He's faster than Moore. He ran a 4.42, I think.

Get off the Vaughn and Moore train please. They have good straightline speed, but terrible game and lateral speed.

[5mics]

Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

I'm thinking not necessarily anymore; which is fine w/ me cuz I prefer a NT w/ our 2nd rounder.....

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

I wouldn't... I'd draft a safety, but not that early...

Unless William Moore falls that far, I think he might be a good gamble on greatness... but right now, I'd like the Boys to go OL with the 2nd round pick... if either Duke Robinson or Alex Mack fell that far, they'd be perfect for the Boys...

From what I'm reading, my pet cat is falling down the charts, because he's not yet ready to work out after suffering a knee injury... that would be Jonathan Casillas, the 6-1, 225 pound OLB from Wisconsin who runs a sub-4.5 40 when healthy... I think that Casillas' size and speed are reminiscent of a young Darren Woodson (who also made the switch from OLB to S in the pros), and he might even be available in the 5th round, though I'd spend the Boys second 4th rounder on him...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere

I'm really leaning towards a WR now too..Nicks or Robiskie would look awfully tempting..

For WR, I'm targeting Jarett Dillard, Quan Cosby or Johnny Knox in the middle rounds... Jarett was a touchdown machine in college, setting an NCAA record for WRs with 60 TDs... Cosby has good speed, is fearless, a willing blocker, and a capable kick returner... Knox is blazing fast, and the Boys can use some more speed at WR...

The common thread with all of them is that they're smaller WRs, with the quickness to play in the slot... the Boys have a ton of big wideouts, it might be advantageous to add a Smurf who can play some...

[dallasfaniac]

Originally Posted by silverbear

Jarett was a touchdown machine in college, setting an NCAA record for WRs with 60 TDs.

I'm still trying to decide what I think of this kid. On a scale of David Ball to Jerry Rice, where would I rank him kind of thing.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

I'm still trying to decide what I think of this kid. On a scale of David Ball to Jerry Rice, where would I rank him kind of thing.

I see him as a solid slot receiver in the NFL, and he'd probably be best served by going to a team that runs the West Coast offense...

[dallasfaniac]

Originally Posted by silverbear

I see him as a solid slot receiver in the NFL, and he'd probably be best served by going to a team that runs the West Coast offense...

I like Dillard, I'm just overly cautious I guess. David White Rice Ball broke Jerry Rice's TD record in 2006 and had a slow time in the 40, going undrafted when many sites had him projected him around a 5th rounder. Dillard breaks David Ball's record by 2, also had a slow 40 time at the combine and projects to round 3-4.

I like Dillard who should make a roster rather than dropping out in the CFL as well as the other guys on your list, but I would add Mike Thomas, who is my personal favorite. He may climb into the 2nd as he puts up the good numbers, performed well in both East-West and SeniorBowl and had terrific performance at the combine. The only knock is his 5'-8", which might mean not being seen with 6'-7" OL in the way in the NFL.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

I like Dillard, I'm just overly cautious I guess. David White Rice Ball broke Jerry Rice's TD record in 2006 and had a slow time in the 40, going undrafted when many sites had him projected him around a 5th rounder. Dillard breaks David Ball's record by 2, also had a slow 40 time at the combine and projects to round 3-4.

Uhhh, a 4.52 40 isn't especially fast, but it's not slow either... that's what Dillard ran at the Combine, and I'm betting he gets it down into the 4.48-4.49 range at his Pro Day workout...

Ball ran a 4.65... big difference...

I like Dillard who should make a roster rather than dropping out in the CFL as well as the other guys on your list, but I would add Mike Thomas, who is my personal favorite. He may climb into the 2nd as he puts up the good numbers, performed well in both East-West and SeniorBowl and had terrific performance at the combine. The only knock is his 5'-8", which might mean not being seen with 6'-7" OL in the way in the NFL.

That's the thing, I think Thomas goes before I'd look at a WR... Hos sold me on him, but I have other plans for the 2nd and 3rd round picks...

[Yeagermeister]

Yes, Scandrick isn't moving to safety Ball is. That should last all of one day.

[jterrell]

Sensabaugh was signed to a one year deal to buy time for a rookie.

We will still draft a safety but it may not be in round 2. It will be the earliest spot where we get good value.

Its not like we signed Sensabaugh to a 5 year deal.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by silverbear

Uhhh, a 4.52 40 isn't especially fast, but it's not slow either... that's what Dillard ran at the Combine, and I'm betting he gets it down into the 4.48-4.49 range at his Pro Day workout...

Ball ran a 4.65... big difference...



That's the thing, I think Thomas goes before I'd look at a WR... Hos sold me on him, but I have other plans for the 2nd and 3rd round picks...

I can assure you Mike Thomas does not get drafted before round 4.

Thomas is a Skyler Green type player without the injury concerns. He doesn't look very natural at all at WR. Dillard is a vastly better WR and prospect.

[DFWJC]

I've seen Chung going anywhere between early 2nd all the way us in the 3rd. I say we stick to our board at this point and take the BPA approach according to our board--which takes into account our needs.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by silverbear

For WR, I'm targeting Jarett Dillard, Quan Cosby or Johnny Knox in the middle rounds... Jarett was a touchdown machine in college, setting an NCAA record for WRs with 60 TDs... Cosby has good speed, is fearless, a willing blocker, and a capable kick returner... Knox is blazing fast, and the Boys can use some more speed at WR...

The common thread with all of them is that they're smaller WRs, with the quickness to play in the slot... the Boys have a ton of big wideouts, it might be advantageous to add a Smurf who can play some...

I agree with this post on all accounts. If we can get any of those three without reaching, I would be happy. Middle rounds should work if that is where they are on our draft boards. Jarett is a real playmaker with great hands and hops and so-so speed. Cosby reminds me a little of Hines Ward. Knox is jsut a flat our burner.

[jday]

Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

I'm not sure how everyone is ignoring our drastic need at CB at this point. With the release of Pacman, the trade of Anthony Henry, and the possible transition of Scandrick, that leaves us with only 2 starter quality CB's; Ball should not have even made the 53 roster over Oglesby, but that's for a different thread. Nevertheless, with all the teams moving to the 3-4, I still say the Cowboys address Safety, but a 3-4 ready NT or hybrid in the Ratliff mold, should come first, then CB, then we can probably address Safety and ILB both in the 4th round.

[Sitting Bull]

Originally Posted by jday

I'm not sure how everyone is ignoring our drastic need at CB at this point. With the release of Pacman, the trade of Anthony Henry, and the possible transition of Scandrick, that leaves us with only 2 starter quality CB's; Ball should not have even made the 53 roster over Oglesby, but that's for a different thread. Nevertheless, with all the teams moving to the 3-4, I still say the Cowboys address Safety, but a 3-4 ready NT or hybrid in the Ratliff mold, should come first, then CB, then we can probably address Safety and ILB both in the 4th round.

I agree, CB is a draft need on par with S, OL and LB. But it still depends on what we do with Killa and FA. We're almost in position to really take BPA. Between Chung, Byrd and Unger, I'm feeling Oregon could figure in to our first pick.