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03-31-2009
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Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere
Pretty sure S,ILB,corner and O-line are more of a priority than D-line..so unless EVERYONE is gone by 51 then ya I guess GIlbert is fine..but Jerry isn't sitting still at 51..he's probably moving up and it's not for a DE, I can promise you that.
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What makes you think those positions are more of a priority than DE?
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03-31-2009
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#17
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Originally Posted by DaBoys4Life
Do you know anything about football?
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Out of EVERYONE in the entire draft..you pick a backup DE??...LOL if anybody is questionable in their football knowledge it's you.
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03-31-2009
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#18
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Originally Posted by DaBoys4Life
What makes you think those positions are more of a priority than DE?
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Have you seen the depth chart behind those positions???
D-line,RB and TE are our deepest positions..
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03-31-2009
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#19
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Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere
Out of EVERYONE in the entire draft..you pick a backup DE??...LOL if anybody is questionable in their football knowledge it's you.
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Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere
Have you seen the depth chart behind those positions???
D-line,RB and TE are our deepest positions..
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I disagree about Dline. Even with the addition of Igor Gilbert would be an upgrade to say the list to Hatcher/Bowen. Could possibly beat out Spears or push him.
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03-31-2009
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#20
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Originally Posted by DaBoys4Life
I disagree about Dline. Even with the addition of Igor Gilbert would be an upgrade to say the list to Hatcher/Bowen. Could possibly beat out Spears or push him.
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Maybe, but it depends how the draft shakes up and if Jerry wants to sit tight..if he's high on their board then I'll trust them..which goes along with that Dblair was stating.
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03-31-2009
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Not a fan of the top of the draft. A 3-4 DE just doesn't have that much value. Not with Spears, Hatcher and Bowen already on the roster.
Sherrod Martin is a FS if Dallas drafts him and that actually works.
I like some of the later picks quite a lot though.
Bruce Johnson and Phillip Hunt really appeal to me as depth guys who could be long term backups and have roles on the team.
I would take a ton of other QBs over JPW. I'd just prefer a better athlete at the position or else we have to scrap a lot of the play calls we use for Romo.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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03-31-2009
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Originally Posted by jterrell
Not a fan of the top of the draft. A 3-4 DE just doesn't have that much value. Not with Spears, Hatcher and Bowen already on the roster.
Sherrod Martin is a FS if Dallas drafts him and that actually works.
I like some of the later picks quite a lot though.
Bruce Johnson and Phillip Hunt really appeal to me as depth guys who could be long term backups and have roles on the team.
I would take a ton of other QBs over JPW. I'd just prefer a better athlete at the position or else we have to scrap a lot of the play calls we use for Romo.
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Preach it brotha!
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04-01-2009
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Best Player available, does this guy really meet that standard, he is not on my radar at 51 but I have a feeling that might not be our picking number this year. Someone made the comment that a Dante Hall type player would really add value to our game. I am in agreement with that statement and would like to see another Skylar Green type pick but with better talent. Lets not get emotional to any player at 51 and wait to see who falls, just be ready and researched so it is not a complete surprise. I like the Chung fellow but would take a better player if he is available and look to next year to help with a certain position rather than take an average player and make him work. Seems like this same thing happened last year with Antoine Cason vs our second pick in the draft and all that worry was for naught when we ended up with Mike Jenkins whom we thought we had no chance of nabbing. I was a Mendenhall guy over Felix last year, and was a Jenkins guy with our first pick not our second. I felt like the media pushed my agenda and it was not even close to the real world draft, this year will be the same, media wise is not real world draft efficient. We have to take someone's opinion whom we do not know as we cannot possibly watch enough to qualify as an expert at this draft, that leaves us trusting the media, this is wrong as they are just passing on others agenda's as last year proved. BPA with no emotional ties makes us a better team and that maybe gets you Peyton Manning vs Ryan Leaf.
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Originally Posted by SLATEmosphere
Pretty sure S,ILB,corner and O-line are more of a priority than D-line..so unless EVERYONE is gone by 51 then ya I guess GIlbert is fine..but Jerry isn't sitting still at 51..he's probably moving up and it's not for a DE, I can promise you that.
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04-01-2009
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Originally Posted by dbair1967
The only positions I'd rule out with first day picks are QB, RB and TE. Everything else is fair game IMO.
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I would not rule out any position with that first pick. Strange things have happened in the draft and you never know who is going to fall. I know the odds are slim and none (like almost nil) but if the likes of Stafford, Sanchez or wells would drop it would be hard not to pull the trigger.
TE maybe the only position you can rule out. I don't think even if Pettigrew was on the board at 51 it would interest the Cowboys but I could be wrong.
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04-01-2009
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Originally Posted by HomeOfLegends
I would not rule out any position with that first pick. Strange things have happened in the draft and you never know who is going to fall. I know the odds are slim and none (like almost nil) but if the likes of Stafford, Sanchez or wells would drop it would be hard not to pull the trigger.
TE maybe the only position you can rule out. I don't think even if Pettigrew was on the board at 51 it would interest the Cowboys but I could be wrong.
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If they hadnt of traded for Kitna, QB would be more of a need. As it is now I wont be surprised if we dont draft one at all, let alone early.
There's no way they are drafting a RB with an early pick, not with a depth chart of Barber, Jones and Choice. Now they might draft a FB late to compete with D Anderson, but not a RB
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04-01-2009
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Originally Posted by dbair1967
If they hadnt of traded for Kitna, QB would be more of a need. As it is now I wont be surprised if we dont draft one at all, let alone early.
There's no way they are drafting a RB with an early pick, not with a depth chart of Barber, Jones and Choice. Now they might draft a FB late to compete with D Anderson, but not a RB
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There is no need but the ammo Jerry would provide himself with if Wells or Moreno fell would be priceless. I doubt the draft would end before Jerry had a stockpile of 2010 draft choices or even hold onto the player during camp because there is almost always a injury in the league that makes a team panic and over pay.
Like I said before, scenario is VERY unlikely but you have to keep your mind open to all possibilities.
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04-01-2009
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#27
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Originally Posted by Macnalty
Best Player available, does this guy really meet that standard, he is not on my radar at 51 but I have a feeling that might not be our picking number this year. Someone made the comment that a Dante Hall type player would really add value to our game. I am in agreement with that statement and would like to see another Skylar Green type pick but with better talent. Lets not get emotional to any player at 51 and wait to see who falls, just be ready and researched so it is not a complete surprise. I like the Chung fellow but would take a better player if he is available and look to next year to help with a certain position rather than take an average player and make him work. Seems like this same thing happened last year with Antoine Cason vs our second pick in the draft and all that worry was for naught when we ended up with Mike Jenkins whom we thought we had no chance of nabbing. I was a Mendenhall guy over Felix last year, and was a Jenkins guy with our first pick not our second. I [View Full Quote]felt like the media pushed my agenda and it was not even close to the real world draft, this year will be the same, media wise is not real world draft efficient. We have to take someone's opinion whom we do not know as we cannot possibly watch enough to qualify as an expert at this draft, that leaves us trusting the media, this is wrong as they are just passing on others agenda's as last year proved. BPA with no emotional ties makes us a better team and that maybe gets you Peyton Manning vs Ryan Leaf.
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I think if Gilbert is there at 51 he will be the BPA unless someone drops which I don't see. I thought if Mendenhall was there we should grab him but if not we should of got CJ. I was Cason all the way and I am upset that they traded up for Jenkins and it pisses me off even more when he doesn't even attempt to tackle Ward.
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04-01-2009
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#28
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I'm sorry, but I have to disagree, too. It's essentially a mathematical certainty that there's going to be some top flight talent available at either OL, LB, or DB at 51. Gilbert's a good player and all, but I see someone drafted at those positions making a greater impact in the coming years.
And also, if somehow Robiskie falls to 51, I would take him over Gilbert, all day, any day. An instant #2 WR versus a #3 DE. It's a no-brainer.
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04-01-2009
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#29
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you guys remember Dave Wannstedt and his Dline rotation?
we draft Jarron, get a similar player to Ratliff to back him up, and we have a sick rotation
plus insurance for the case that Spears leaves in free agency
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04-01-2009
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#30
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If he's BPA, sure. I just don't think there's any chance he will be.
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