Chuck Norris says, VIVA LA REVOLUCION

[BigWillie]

This stuff is getting out of hand. With the tragic deaths of Pittsburgh police officers because of a nutjob Republican who was preparing for the next 'revolution', we have wackos like Glenn Beck and Chuck freakin' Norris spouting some of the same crap.

It's sorta like if you say something enough and people hear this enough, they eventually convince themselves of what they hear, no matter how outrageous it is.

Sooner or later there will be another Timothy McVeigh who convinces himself he is a 'crusader for the Constitution' and does the unthinkable again. It's just sick to hear people speak like this, especially people who can speak to the masses.

It's also unfortunate for Barack, when Chuck begins the next revolution, he is effed in the a.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=91103

On Glenn Beck's radio show last week, I quipped in response to our wayward federal government, "I may run for president of Texas."

That need may be a reality sooner than we think. If not me, someone someday may again be running for president of the Lone Star state, if the state of the union continues to turn into the enemy of the state.

From the East Coast to the "Left Coast," America seems to be moving further and further from its founders' vision and government.

George Washington advised, "The great rule of conduct in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations [and] having with them as little political connection as possible." Yet the Obama administration just pledged $900 million in U.S. taxpayer-funded aid to Hamas-controlled Gaza and Mahmoud Abbas' Palestinian Authority.

[View Full Quote]Thomas Jefferson counseled us, "We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt." Yet the Feds have just skyrocketed our national deficit and debt by trillions of dollars, and it plans much more fiscal expansion with few expectations of resistance. Despite that George Washington admonished, "To contract new debts is not the way to pay for old ones," we keep borrowing and bailing, while we watch the stock market plunge further every time we do.

Patrick Henry taught that, "Our Constitution is … an instrument for its people to restrain the government." Yet our Congress and president stampede that founding document, overlook its explicitness and manipulate its words to abandon a balance of power and accommodate their own desires, partisan politics and runaway spending.

John Adams declared that, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." Yet we've *******ized the First Amendment, reinterpreted America's religious history and secularized our society until we ooze skepticism and circumvent religion on every level of public and private life.

How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? We the people have the authority according to America's Declaration of Independence, which states:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience has shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

When I appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show, he told me that someone had asked him, "Do you really believe that there is going to be trouble in the future?" And he answered, "If this country starts to spiral out of control and Mexico melts down or whatever, if it really starts to spiral out of control, before America allows a country to become a totalitarian country (which it would have under I think the Republicans as well in this situation; they were taking us to the same place, just slower), Americans won't stand for it. There will be parts of the country that will rise up." Then Glenn asked me and his listening audience, "And where's that going to come from?" He answered his own question, "Texas, it's going to come from Texas. Do you agree with that Chuck?" I replied, "Oh yeah!" Definitely.

It was these types of thoughts that led me to utter the tongue-n-cheek frustration on Glenn Beck's radio show, "I may run for president of Texas!"

I'm not saying that other states won't muster the gumption to stand and secede, but Texas has the history to prove it. As most know, Texas was its own country before it joined the Union as its 28th state. From 1836 to 1846, Texas was its own Republic. Washington-on-the-Brazos (river) served as our Philadelphia, Pa. It was there, on March 2, 1836, where a band of patriots forged the Texas Declaration of Independence. (We just celebrated these dates last week.)

On March 1, 1845, then-President John Tyler signed a congressional bill annexing the Republic of Texas. Though the annexation resolution never explicitly granted Texas the right to secede from the Union (as is often reported), many (including me) hold that it is implied by its unique autonomy and history, as well as the unusual provision in the resolution that gave Texas the right to divide into as many as five states. Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also declare that "All political power is inherent in the people. … they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

Anyone who has been around Texas for any length of time knows exactly what we'd do if the going got rough in America. Let there be no doubt about that. As Sam Houston once said, "Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may."

Just last Friday, the Alamo celebrated its 173rd commemoration, when on March 6, 1836, Texans under Col. William B. Travis were overcome by the Mexican army after a two-week siege at the Alamo in San Antonio. But they didn't go down without a hell-of-a-fight, as those roughly 145 Texans fought to their dying breaths against more than 2,000 Mexican forces under Gen. Santa Anna. (Casualties in the battle were 189 Texans vs. about 1,600 Mexicans.) They lost that battle, but would provide the inspiration to win the war. Their fighting spirit rallied the new-found republic, and still does to this day. So when you think all is lost in America, remember the Alamo!

For those losing hope, and others wanting to rekindle the patriotic fires of early America, I encourage you to join Fox News' Glenn Beck, me and millions of people across the country in the live telecast, "We Surround Them," on Friday afternoon (March 13 at 5 p.m. ET, 4 p.m. CT and 2 p.m. PST). Thousands of cell groups will be united around the country in solidarity over the concerns for our nation. You can host or attend a viewing party by going to Glenn's website. My wife Gena and I will be hosting one from our Texas ranch, in which we've invited many family members, friends and law enforcement to join us. It's our way of saying "We're united, we're tired of the corruption, and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Again, Sam Houston put it well when he gave the marching orders, "We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid: None is at hand. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father's name."

[CowboyFan74]

Originally Posted by BigWillie

With the tragic deaths of Pittsburgh police officers because of a nutjob Republican who was preparing for the next 'revolution',

Wait what happened in Pitts?

[BigWillie]

Originally Posted by CowboyFan74

Wait what happened in Pitts?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09094/960660-100.stm

Three Pittsburgh police officers were killed and two others were injured after a heavily armed man began firing at them as they responded to a domestic call this morning at a home in Stanton Heights.

The 22-year-old suspected shooter, Richard "Pop" Poplawski, who told friends he was wearing a bulletproof vest, surrendered to police about 11 a.m., four hours after the standoff began at 1016 Fairfield St. He was shot several times in the legs and was being treated at UPMC Presbyterian.

City officials this afternoon identified the officers as Stephen Mayhle, a two-year veteran of the force, Eric Kelly, on the job for 14 years, and Paul Sciullo III, also a two-year veteran.

Police said Officer Mayhle was married and had two daughters, ages 3 and 6; Officer Kelly was married and had three daughters, ages 11, 16 and 22; and Officer Sciullo was single and engaged to be married.

[View Full Quote]One injured officer, 15-year-veteran Timothy McManaway, was treated at a hospital for a bullet wound, and the fifth officer, Brian Jones, suffered a broken leg.

Police Chief Nathan Harper said Mr. Poplawski will be charged with three counts of homicide.

Shortly after 1 p.m., city 911 dispatchers announced that flags in the city would be lowered to half staff and officers were to place black mourning bands over their badges "in honor of our deceased brothers . . . lest we forget."

The incident began at 7:05 a.m., after officers went to the address and the suspect opened fire, police said.

Chief Harper said three officers initially were wounded when Mr. Poplawski fired an assault rifle. The fourth and fifth officers were injured as they responded to the first shootings, the chief said.

For much of the morning, the standoff forced police to lock down the neighborhood as scores of officers converged on the house, where Mr. Poplawski had barricaded himself. At least one other family member was in the house.

Some of the wounded officers remained for a time where they fell because other officers could not reach them with bullets continuing to fly over their heads, according to Diane Richard, Pittsburgh Police spokeswoman.

A state police helicopter hovered overhead as more than 100 officers from Pittsburgh, the state, the district attorney's office and the Port Authority and the FBI converged along with neighbors and other onlookers.

Authorities as well as members of the suspect's family were in contact with Mr. Poplawski by phone. Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl was among the officials at the scene.

A neighbor and longtime friend Joe DiMarco and his mother, Darlene, said they spoke to Mr. Poplawski on the telephone this morning.

"He told me he loved me and that he'd been shot in the chest and leg," Ms. DiMarco said.

Another neighbor, Brian Merlina, said he was getting out of the shower at 7:30 a.m. when he heard rapid-fire gunshots. About 30 minutes later, he heard at least two dozen more shots fired.

Shortly thereafter, the state police helicopter landed in a field near his house. He said he drove a trooper who got out of the helicopter to the scene.

Utility crews cut off power to the house at 10:45 a.m. because they believed Mr. Poplawski was monitoring media reports. He surrendered a short time later.

Drew Stadler, 34, who lives nearby on Oglethorpe Street, said he heard loud bangs around 8 a.m. From his window, he saw Mr. Poplawski pointing what appeared to be a semiautomatic rifle and shooting at officers from a window above the garage of the Fairfield Street house.

SWAT officers were pinned down, with their protective shields up, at an adjacent house.

At one point, the SWAT officers pulled away a wounded officer and dragged him down the street, Mr. Stadler said. He also said he heard potentially hundreds of shots fired throughout the incident.

Other friends said Mr. Poplawski had several guns, including an AK-47 assault-type rifle, a .357 Magnum revolver, a .380-caliber handgun and a .45-caliber handgun. They also said they believed he had not been getting along with his mother.

Mr.Poplawski called Edward Perkovic, a longtime friend and former classmate at North Catholic High School, on a cell phone around 8:30 a.m. Mr. Perkovic said Mr. Poplawski told him he'd been shot in the chest and leg, but that the bulletproof vest he'd been wearing had shielded him.

Mr. Perkovic also said Mr. Poplawski told him: "Eddie, I'm going to die today. Tell your family and friends I love them. This is probably the end."

A burst of gunfire followed, and the call ended, Mr. Perkovic said. A short time later, he said, a city 911 official telephoned him and asked him to come to Fairfield Street and help to negotiate a surrender with Mr. Poplawski.

By the time he arrived there, however, the standoff had ended.

Mr. Perkovic and other former classmates said they were surprised by this morning's events. Mr. Perkovic said Mr. Poplawski was opposed to "Zionist propaganda" and was fearful that his right to own weapons would be taken away but he wasn't a member of an organized group or militia.

"He always said that if someone tried to take his weapons away he would do what his forefathers told him to do and defend himself."

Another friend, Aaron Vire, 23, said he'd helped Mr. Poplawski and Mr. Perkovic with a radio show they'd broadcast on the Internet, discussing "politics, girls and life."

Mr. Poplawski had supported Republican candidate John McCain in the presidential election and had "very spirited debates" about Democratic candidate Barack Obama, Mr. Vire said. Mr. Poplawski was opposed to Mr. Obama's election, which he thought would result in the loss of his rights, Mr. Vire said.

"He wasn't a racist but thought some of his amendments were overlooked," Mr. Vire said. Even though Mr. Vire is black and Mr. Poplawski is white, the debates over President Obama did not hurt their friendship, he said.

Mr. Poplawski told him he bought his guns "because he felt the quality of life was being diminished," Mr. Vire said.

"He said he'll be ready if there's ever an invasion of the United States and that he had stockpiled foods and guns for that eventuality."

[hairic]

Originally Posted by CowboyFan74

Wait what happened in Pitts?

Guy opened fire on cops, killing 3 and injuring 2, because he believed Obama was going to take away his guns.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by CowboyFan74

Wait what happened in Pitts?

3 cops murdered by a loser/whack job who reportedly acted at least in part because "Obama's going to take our guns"...

Never mind that Obama has said no such thing, and certainly has made no effort to do such a thing... never mind that he almost certainly never will, because a) that would be political suicide in this country, and b) he has a rather full agenda of issues far more important...

Of course, murdering cops is the first thing most gun nuts think of, isn't it??

I think the OP is a little harsh in his criticism of the right here, but I have to admit that when I read about his whack job, a few in here sprang to my mind... this is exactly the sort of whack job who responds to the kind of hate speech currently in vogue in here...

And as long as I'm making a brief drive by here this AM, permit me to observe that Obama the "Socialist" (as many in here insist he is) had a PERFECT chance to practice a little socialism, and even had Republicans who would have supported him when he did, and chose not to avail himself of the opportunity...

I refer to the Administration's "toxic assets" plan for the banking industry... they chose this option rather than the socialistic one of nationalizing the troubled banks...

Strange behavior for a "socialist", no?? The truth is, our new President is acting pretty much like a centrist, kinda like Bill Clinton was...

Of course, I don't expect the Obama haters in here to stop demonizing the guy, and I certainly don't expect them to start making sense with their criticisms... that would be beyond unrealistic of me...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by hairic

Guy opened fire on cops, killing 3 and injuring 2, because he believed Obama was going to take away his guns.

To be completely fair, that was only part of the reason offered by the media thus far... the other part was that he was upset about losing his job... I expect we'll learn a good deal more about his motives in the coming days...

Oh, and Chuck Norris is the quintessential wingnut, not to be taken seriously by anybody with half a brain...

[zrinkill]

[burmafrd]

Since I knew, ;and so does everyone else; that silver would drool his usual drivel about conservatives, and blindly defend his messiah, one could ask why does he bother?
Sadly we seem to have another VC in little william.

[MetalHead]

Originally Posted by zrinkill

Can't be worse than Barry...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Since I knew, ;and so does everyone else; that silver would drool his usual drivel about conservatives, and blindly defend his messiah, one could ask why does he bother?

More astute, in-depth political analysis from the board's resident right wing fanatic...

I notice you went for the ad hominem, and didn't evey TRY to address my observations re: Obama's supposed "socialist" tendencies... of course you don't want to try to explain why this so-called "socialist" willfully chose to AVOID taking the socialistic route (i.e., nationalization of troubled banks) when even a lot of Republicans would not have blamed him for taking that route...

He had a tailor-made opportunity to nudge this country down the path to socialism, like the whack jobs in here are constantly claiming he wants to do, and chose not to do so...

Do you care to address that FACT, burm??

If not, how 'bout you address another FACT-- that the beloved hero of the right, Chuck Norris, is now advocating the dissolution of our nation?? He explicitly advocated Texas withdrawing from the Union... last time somebody did that, we wound up in a freakin' Civil War...

Yeah, that Chuck, he's a REAL patriot...

Oh, as for why I bother, I do so for one reason, and one reason only-- to point out to you and those like you that your claims are quite bogus, as are your political philosophies... IOW, I do it to rub your nose in your political naivete... and to annoy you personally, of course...

[Rogah]

Originally Posted by BigWillie

This stuff is getting out of hand. With the tragic deaths of Pittsburgh police officers because of a nutjob Republican who was preparing for the next 'revolution', we have wackos like Glenn Beck and Chuck freakin' Norris spouting some of the same crap.

With all due respect, this is a ridiculous statement. That nutjob yesterday doesn't represent Republicans any more than that Vietnamese guy who shot up the Civic Center in Binghamton represents immigrants, or that guy in Oakland who killed 4 cops represents African Americans. Don't you agree?

Originally Posted by silverbear

I think the OP is a little harsh in his criticism of the right here, but I have to admit that when I read about his whack job, a few in here sprang to my mind... this is exactly the sort of whack job who responds to the kind of hate speech currently in vogue in here...

See my above response.

[Bob Sacamano]

I side with Chuck Norris

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by hairic

Guy opened fire on cops, killing 3 and injuring 2, because he believed Obama was going to take away his guns.

He had a lot more than that going on, dude was certifiable. Walked the streets barefoot, broke windows, etc. A real nutjob, who also happened to like guns.

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by BigWillie

This stuff is getting out of hand. With the tragic deaths of Pittsburgh police officers because of a nutjob Republican who was preparing for the next 'revolution', we have wackos like Glenn Beck and Chuck freakin' Norris spouting some of the same crap.

It's sorta like if you say something enough and people hear this enough, they eventually convince themselves of what they hear, no matter how outrageous it is.

Ironic.

By equating the Norris article to the actions of the Pittsburgh shooter, you're guilty of perpetuating the same type of baseless, political fear-mongering that drove the Pittsburgh shooter to murders those officers.

[iceberg]

as far as "this is getting out of hand" - no. it's BEEN out of hand.

bush hates the black man. bush caused katrina. someone took a whizz on a koran and riots broke out where people were killed.

this is just carryover and the other sides turn to be "extreme".

the dude who killed the pitt cops was whacked. but it amazes me "the left" only see NOW that it's getting out of hand even though they lied and made crap up for 8 years.

dangerous times we're in.