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04-20-2009
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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I am loaded with pet cats.
Daniel Hotlzclaw, ILB, Eastern Michigan
Sean Smith, FS, Utah
Mike Thomas, WR/PR/KR, Arizona
Dallas Reynolds, OG, BYU
Lawrence Sidbury, DE/OLB, Richmond
Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
Chase Holbrook, QB, New Mexico State (the only QB who has not been in my mocks)
Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
Chase Daniels, QB, Missouri (as a UDFA project)
Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon
Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
David Veikune, DE/OLB, Hawaii
Mitch King, DT, Iowa (I wish he fit the 3-4. Love his football motor.)
Last edited by Hostile : 04-20-2009 at 07:56 AM.
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04-20-2009
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#17
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2004, 2009, 2010
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | London, England |
Posts: | 12,309 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverbear
Aren't any of you Delmas fans disturbed by the scouting reports that say he's been burned by play fakes a LOT??
And from what I've read, the guy will put the lumber to ya, but he's not really all that great in coverage (perhaps because of the biting on play fakes thing)... that sounds like a smaller Roy to me...
I keep hearing the Boys really like him, and I keep wondering why... can anybody offer me a take on what he would bring to the Boys, to make them so hot for him??
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SilverBear,
Let me try to give you my unbiased view (unlike some posters  ).
First, according to several guides (as I'm sure you know), there is wild speculation among Chung, Delmas, and even R Johnson ratings on who is better.
NFLDraftScouts, for example, had Chung rated slightly higher than Delmas.
I'd have to say though that all in all the consensus is that Delmas rates slightly ahead of the other Safeties.
Why I think the Cowboys like Delmas is that he can play both the pass and run (though some scouts have pointed out that he doesn't take great angles), and that he is interchangeable between FS and SS - and that fits what the Cowboys are trying to do going forward it appears.
Also, his play at the Senior Bowl, I believe, was very good and matched his consistency in college (even though it was versus inferior competition relative to his draftable peers). He does have hands for the interception and can play the deep ball - probably better than Chung.
Interestingly, Delmas, Chung, and R Johnson are all roughly the same size, and their 40 times are roughly the same (they are all 4.5 40 guys).
Anyway, I'm sure many will disagree with me on my analysis.
Personally, I'd be happy with Delmas, Chung, or R Johnson.
EDIT: I'd also add that I think that Chung may be better than Delmas versus the run, but Delmas and Johnson may be better than Chung versus the pass.
Last edited by Woods : 04-20-2009 at 07:57 AM.
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04-20-2009
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#18
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2004, 2009, 2010
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | London, England |
Posts: | 12,309 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
I am loaded with pet cats.
Daniel Hotlzclaw, ILB, Eastern Michigan
Mike Thomas, WR/PR/KR, Arizona
Dallas Reynolds, OG, BYU
Lawrence Sidbury, DE/OLB, Richmond
Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
Chase Holbrook, QB, New Mexico State (the only QB who has not been in my mocks)
Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
Chase Daniels, QB, Missouri (as a UDFA project)
Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon
Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
David Veikune, DE/OLB, Hawaii
Mitch King, DT, Iowa (I wish he fit the 3-4. Love his football motor.)
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It appears many of us like Veikune. I really hope we get him.
I'm torn on Sidbury. It seems his sack production, for example, was sort of on and off. Like versus Montana, I believe, he had around 3-4 sacks, or about 25% of his total for the season. Maybe I'm just being too picky . . . . but I've read several times that for a guy with Sidbury's measureables, and who he was playing against, his production should have been much greater.
I can't say I watched his games though, just highlight clips.
Love to get your opinion on him, Hos.
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04-20-2009
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#19
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2006 |
Posts: | 2,000 |
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WR Kenny Mckinley....
"here kitty, kitty, kitty..."
Like Mike Thomas, too.
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04-20-2009
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#20
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I am Death
Joined: | Jan 2005 |
Location: | Tempe, AZ |
Posts: | 2,999 |
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any USC player.
Just kidding.
I really want Sean Smith, Louis Delmas, or Brian Robiskie at #51.
As far as the rest of the draft, my pets would be:
Mike Thomas WR Arizona
Herman Johnson G LSU
Antoine Caldwell C Alabama
Hunter Cantwll QB Louisville
I'm also hoping we grab Michael Ray Garvin from Florida State in the 7th round or sign him as a UDFA.
Packers GM
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04-20-2009
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#21
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Skinwalker
Joined: | Feb 2006 |
Location: | Shambhala |
Posts: | 1,024 |
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Marquez Branson / FB-TE / Central Arkansas - I'd love to see this kid lined up at FB and as a check down for Romo .
Cornelius Lewis / OT-OG / Tennessee State - Can't say that I've ever watched a Tennessee State game , but the kid sounds like the type of big mauler I love .
Connor Barwin / DE-LB / Cincinnati - Reminds me of Vrabel and looks like could line up anywhere .
Michael Hamlin / SS / Clemson - Great tackler and ballhawk . He and William Moore are my favorite two safeties in this draft .
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04-20-2009
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#22
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2005 |
Location: | Cleveland |
Posts: | 449 |
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I like a lot of WRs in this years class. It's normally the position I like to follow the most. That said, here's a couple of guys I like.
Louis Murphy, WR, Florida: I think he's got everything you'd want in a WR. Was over looked on a very talented team. Good speed and size.
Brandon Tate, WR, UNC: If healthy, I think he can be a difference maker. Instant upgrade on special teams.
Brian Hoyer, QB, MSU: After Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, and Ball, Hoyer's the next QB on my list. He's being very underrated. He should be a good QB at the next level. Drops and MSU's offense didn't do him any favors.
Londen Fryer, CB, Western Michigan: Was a very productive CB at WMU. Would be good depth and can be had in the late rounds.
I love Delmas, but I don't think he really needs to be pimped anymore.
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04-20-2009
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#23
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Mr. Fixit
Joined: | Aug 2004 |
Posts: | 6,278 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMMYBUFFETT
Marquez Branson / FB-TE / Central Arkansas - I'd love to see this kid lined up at FB and as a check down for Romo.
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This kid could be a super sleeper at FB. He's also a very willing blocker, tough though undersized. Nice pick.
"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is."
Rob Ryan, Dallas Cowboys DC
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04-20-2009
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#24
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Skinwalker
Joined: | Feb 2006 |
Location: | Shambhala |
Posts: | 1,024 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BAT
This kid could be a super sleeper at FB. He's also a very willing blocker, tough though undersized. Nice pick.
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I've wanted Dallas to pick up a versatile FB for years . Cricket is anything but versatile . I really wanted Jacob Hester last season , and this year Branson is my cat . I love those do anything guys that will willing go where ever you point them . Plus I think he'd be Romo's best friend on check down passes .
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04-20-2009
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#25
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 11,357 |
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Love Mike Thomas, William Beatty, Craig Urbik.
Dont understand the Duke Robinson Love. Every scouting report I've read says poor work ethic and makes too many mistakes. Dont the boys have enough of those types?
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04-20-2009
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#26
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Banned
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Posts: | 57,074 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RS12
Love Mike Thomas, William Beatty, Craig Urbik.
Dont understand the Duke Robinson Love. Every scouting report I've read says poor work ethic and makes too many mistakes. Dont the boys have enough of those types?
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too many
the best OG in the draft shouldn't be rated as low as Duke is
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04-20-2009
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2006 |
Posts: | 15,405 |
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I like Rashad Johnson, Mike Thomas, Johnny Knox, and Stephen McGee.
And Fiammetta's a personal favorite who I think would help with an increased running game, but I doubt the Cowboys feel he's worth a fourth round pick.
"I don't understand it Stephen, it's opening day 2014, where is everybody?"
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04-20-2009
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#28
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Dark Days
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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The homer in me wants Pat White to be a Cowboy. However I would not take him before the 4th round.
Last edited by BrAinPaiNt : 04-20-2009 at 05:00 PM.
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04-20-2009
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#29
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2004, 2009, 2010
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | London, England |
Posts: | 12,309 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
The homer in me wants Pat White to be a Cowboy. However I would take him before the 4th round.
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You mean, " wouldn't take him before the 4th round", right?
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04-20-2009
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#30
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Banned
Joined: | Jan 2009 |
Location: | In Peppy's head |
Posts: | 9,633 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbair1967
Except Delmas actually has some history of making plays on the ball, and Sanders doesnt.
If Delmas truly is the "next Bob Sanders" I want to change my mock, because I dont want that player. I want someone who can actually make plays.
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LOL. I say he's the next Bob Sanders, but healthy Bob Sanders ALL the time. When Bob Sanders is healthy I don't think there's a better safety that makes a huge impact other than him in the NFL. Well maybe Ed Reed. 4 picks last year says he can make some plays and has pretty good instincts.
The guy hasn't missed a start in his 4 years at WMU. People say he won't hold up but he's proven people wrong his whole career. Ya he hasn't played the best talent but that's a useless argument because Greg Jennings went there and he seems to be doing well. Keep him in your mock Dblair.
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