Mac Engel says the player cowboys like is Sean Smith CB Utah, may have to trade up to

[dcfanatic]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

How connected is Mac when he can't get the player's name or school right?

Like 41, I'm not high on Smith as a corner. Especially not for a team that's not primarily a cover-2 defense, which we aren't.

They liked him 2 months ago.

A lot has changed since then.

They are not going to draft Sean Hill ciwoskiw Smith from Oregon/Utah/Neverneverland.

[Bizwah]

This time of year is so fun.

What's the truth?
What's fiction?
What's misinformation?
What players really failed their DTs?
Do we really like so-and-so?

I'll admit....I haven't seen a lot of Sean Smith. I am impressed with his measurables...which is something I usually try to stay away from. I would love to see us find a safety that could finally complete our secondary. It seems we always have one HUGE weak link back there....We'd gone for years without a compliment to Newman....then it was a compliment to Roy....then it was replacing Roy....

[BAT]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

I am aware (read my earlier post). The problem with that is that the best DBs in a Tampa2 are typcially the safeties. The CBs in that scheme usually don't make the big money because they are not nearly the quality of CBs other schemes demand. It's kinda pointless to me but then again, I think he should be a safety so what do I know?

I was responding to your response to my post, not any of your earlier posts. I am so confused now.

[Vinnie2u]

Originally Posted by JerryAdvocate

meh, you could do better with a guy like Victor Harris

Been on the Macho Harris Bandwagon for months now... You can get him in a later round and he is a playmaker....

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by

They liked him 2 months ago.

A lot has changed since then.

They are not going to draft Sean Hill ciwoskiw Smith from Oregon/Utah/Neverneverland.

I like that last line...

If we do like him, it has to be purely as a safety. And I personally wouldn't draft a guy like that who didn't want to play the position. IMO we're looking for guys that like to play and like to hit, and a guy who doesn't really care for the position doesn't fit those criteria.

If I really had to guess, and it's just a hunch, I bet we go after a more physical safety like Chung or even Chip Vaughn. I think this idea of getting a corner-like S might be a bit of a smokescreen.

[cowboyjoe]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I like that last line...

If we do like him, it has to be purely as a safety. And I personally wouldn't draft a guy like that who didn't want to play the position. IMO we're looking for guys that like to play and like to hit, and a guy who doesn't really care for the position doesn't fit those criteria.

If I really had to guess, and it's just a hunch, I bet we go after a more physical safety like Chung or even Chip Vaughn. I think this idea of getting a corner-like S might be a bit of a smokescreen.

could be, remember what jimmy johnson said, he used the media to let the players know what was going on, like one time when he was talking to the media jimmy said; right now talking to you media people im having a nice meeting with the players,

even john madden said he used the media for his own purposes sometimes to get things across to the players or to other teams

thats something that wade phillips should know by now, but he doesnt yet for some strange reason;

[28 Joker]

I read this off Packers.com This was what I was talking about above. Here the scouts talk about Smith having trouble in transition and needing to fit a certain scheme or be a safety.



♦ 5. Sean Smith, Utah 6-3 ½, 214 2:

Junior entry who redshirted his fresman year and then moved from running back to receiver to cornerback. Intriguing because he’s unusually big for a cornerback and could compete for balls with all the tall receivers in the league. Started 22 of 26 games the last two seasons and had 16 passes defended and nine interceptions in his career. Has long, 34 5/8-inch arms to go with his tall frame. Ran the 40 in 4.58 seconds at the combine and had a vertical jump of 34 inches. Cornerbacks his height have trouble making it because they’re usually not quick enough in and out of their breaks, and that could an issue with Smith, who also is unpolished. “Finesse guy, struggles transitioning, takes a long time to gather and get out of things,” one scout said. “He has some upside because of his size, but I don’t see him as a (great)-type athlete. You’d almost hope he could play safety but he’s not physical enough. I think he’s probably a late second-round guy.” Lack of experience and frame to add weight makes some scouts think he could develop in a good bump corner over time. “Raiders, Green Bay does a lot of that, turn and run and press,” another scout said. “That’s what he does. He’s got to fit the scheme, but he has value definitely.”



http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/.../90418075/1058

[This is Our Year]

Can't wait till Saturday, the suspense is killing me and it's only Monday, ugh.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by This is Our Year

Can't wait till Saturday, the suspense is killing me and it's only Monday, ugh.

And I'm still peeved they moved the thing back a few hours and only the first two rounds are on Saturday now.

I guess at least Sunday will be fun, though.

[cowboyjoe]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

And I'm still peeved they moved the thing back a few hours and only the first two rounds are on Saturday now.

I guess at least Sunday will be fun, though.

good read 41gy thanks

[irvin4evs]

If he was more open to playing safety I'd be down, but he is gonna be a LOLfest at CB, IMO. Quick receivers are going to make him look like Roy Williams.

[BAT]

Originally Posted by irvin4evs

If he was more open to playing safety I'd be down, but he is gonna be a LOLfest at CB, IMO. Quick receivers are going to make him look like Roy Williams.

I think even he understands that, that's why he is lobbying to play in a Tampa 2 scheme, where he can play off the receiver and keep the plays in front of him.


Smith would have to get bigger & more physical if he wants to succeed as a man corner. But he has more athleticism than Bobby Taylor, and if he can develop an edge, could be special. But w/his attitude, may never happen.

[irvin4evs]

I'm getting a major Teyo Johnson vibe about Smith right now.

[BAT]

Originally Posted by irvin4evs

I'm getting a major Teyo Johnson vibe about Smith right now.

LOL, I can see that happening too. Altho, to be fair, Teyo was an utter mess off the field, Smith has not shown that. In either case, the talent was there, it was the character that was lacking.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by BAT

I think even he understands that, that's why he is lobbying to play in a Tampa 2 scheme, where he can play off the receiver and keep the plays in front of him.


Smith would have to get bigger & more physical if he wants to succeed as a man corner. But he has more athleticism than Bobby Taylor, and if he can develop an edge, could be special. But w/his attitude, may never happen.

The guy is probably 210, 215 now. I don't think he needs to get much bigger. Stronger, OK but not too much Bigger.