Most of You Know the Story About The Redskins Fight Song...

[DCBoysfan]

I learn something new everyday, thanks for the info, Hos.

[TheCount]

Great stuff, Hos.

[DallasFanSince86]

Thanks for the information, Hos. Very interesting.

[Hostile]

I thought about adding the stuff about the 49ers, Cardinals and Redskins to the original post of the thread but thought it might make it way too long. Hope no one minded a 2nd post about the info.

[Kobal]

Great stuffs. Thanks for sharing.

[Hostile]

Something I should mention, Clint Murchison was up against the clock badly to get a team on the field in 1960. He had no staff, no coach, no players. George Halas advised him to hire Tex Schramm who had been let go by the Los Angeles Rams. Schramm immediately hired Tom Landry. In the middle of trying to do this Bert Bell stepped down as the NFL Commissioner. The Cowboys missed out on the 1960 NFL Draft, the only expansion team ever to be formed without a Draft as their building block.

[jubal]

Originally Posted by BehindEnemyLinez

Hos= Cowboys' historian supreme! You're full of it, ain't ya (and I mean that in a good way )?

My thoughts perzacly.

[MadCow]

This information is absolutely great! Thanks for sharing.

[BehindEnemyLinez]

It's amazing how many ties there are to the Cowboys/Redskins rivalry! There are SO many reasons not to like the Deadskins that I had no knowledge of when I "chose" my allegiance some 30 years ago (actually, Dallas seemed to choose me, if that makes sense)! Reading these nuggets of info from Hos just makes me dislike them that much more...

[sonnyboy]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Something I should mention, Clint Murchison was up against the clock badly to get a team on the field in 1960. He had no staff, no coach, no players. George Halas advised him to hire Tex Schramm who had been let go by the Los Angeles Rams. Schramm immediately hired Tom Landry. In the middle of trying to do this Bert Bell stepped down as the NFL Commissioner. The Cowboys missed out on the 1960 NFL Draft, the only expansion team ever to be formed without a Draft as their building block.

I was discussing this topic with someone recently and something else significant came to mind.

From a competitive angle, no expansion team ever had more strikes against it.

When they started in 1960, they were competing against one other expansion team who did get to draft and 12 other established NFL teams.

Those 12 teams had the benefit of constructing their rosters over the previous 5-10 years from a relatively large talent pool since there was no competing league in the 1950's.

Now here come the Cowboys in 1960 along with the Vikings and 8 other new teams in the AFL.

In one year,the number of pro teams competing for talent jumped from 12 to 22!

The Cowboys get no draft and have to compete against 9 other expansion teams for street FA's.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by BehindEnemyLinez

It's amazing how many ties there are to the Cowboys/Redskins rivalry! There are SO many reasons not to like the Deadskins that I had no knowledge of when I "chose" my allegiance some 30 years ago (actually, Dallas seemed to choose me, if that makes sense)! Reading these nuggets of info from Hos just makes me dislike them that much more...

You just made my day.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by sonnyboy

I was discussing this topic with someone recently and something else significant came to mind.

From a competitive angle, no expansion team ever had more strikes against it.

When they started in 1960, they were competing against one other expansion team who did get to draft and 12 other established NFL teams.

Those 12 teams had the benefit of constructing their rosters over the previous 5-10 years from a relatively large talent pool since there was no competing league in the 1950's.

Now here come the Cowboys in 1960 along with the Vikings and 8 other new teams in the AFL.

In one year,the number of pro teams competing for talent jumped from 12 to 22!

The Cowboys get no draft and have to compete against 9 other expansion teams for street FA's.

Very true. The Vikings did not have to start staffing until 1961, but they did get the overall #1 pick in the 1961 NFL Draft. Imagine if they had taken Bob Lilly. He ended up being the best player in that Draft. Dallas got him with the 13th pick. They had the worst record in 1960 and still had to pick that late.

[FanSince61]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Very true. The Vikings did not have ot start staffing until 1961, but they did get the overall #1 pick in the 1961 NFL Draft. Imagine if they had taken Bob Lilly. He ended up being the best player in that Draft. Dallas got him with the 13th pick. They had the worst record in 1960 and still had to pick that late.

We traded the #2 overall pick and a sixth round to Washington for Eddie LeBaron. The 13th pick we got Lilly with was Cleveland's pick.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by FanSince61

We traded the #2 overall pick and a sixth round to Washington for Eddie LeBaron. The 13th pick we got Lilly with was Cleveland's pick.

I know. I was more saying about how in retrospect we might not have got Lilly.

[FanSince61]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I know. I was more saying about how in retrospect we might not have got Lilly.

True we paid a heavy price for LeBaron. Washington took a DT with the 3rd pick. Wrong guy.