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Old 12-27-2004   #1
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Default Updated Draft Order (12/27/04)

Rank Team W-L
Record Win % Opp.
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Win %
1 San Francisco 49ers 2-13 .133 101-122 .453
2 Cleveland Browns 3-12 .200 134-90 .598
3 Tennessee Titans 4-11 .267 119-106 .529
4 Miami Dolphins 4-11 .267 122-102 .545
5 Chicago Bears 5-10 .333 104-120 .464
6 Arizona Cardinals 5-10 .333 104-119 .466
7 Washington Redskins 5-10 .333 107-116 .480
8 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-10 .333 108-116 .482
9 San Diego Chargers (via NY Giants) 5-10 .333 118-105 .529
10 Oakland Raiders 5-10 .333 130-95 .578
11 Detroit Lions 6-9 .400 116-108 .518
12 Dallas Cowboys 6-9 .400 116-107 .520
13 St. Louis Rams 6-8 .429 95-115 .452
14 New Orleans Saints 7-8 .467 106-118 .473
15 Cincinnati Bengals 7-8 .467 115-110 .511
16 Carolina Panthers 7-8 .467 114-109 .511
17 Houston Texans 7-8 .467 118-107 .524
18 Kansas City Chiefs 7-8 .467 121-104 .538
19 Seattle Seahawks 8-7 .533 95-128 .426
20 Minnesota Vikings 8-7 .533 110-114 .491
21 Jacksonville Jaguars 8-7 .533 124-101 .551
22 Baltimore Ravens 8-7 .533 128-96 .571
23 Denver Broncos 9-6 .600 106-119 .471
24 Dallas Cowboys (via Buffalo) 9-6 .600 106-118 .473
25 Green Bay Packers 9-6 .600 106-117 .475
26 New York Jets 10-5 .667 117-108 .520
27 Atlanta Falcons 11-4 .733 94-130 .420
28 San Diego Chargers 11-4 .733 109-116 .484
29 Indianapolis Colts 12-3 .800 110-115 .489
30 New England Patriots 13-2 .867 116-108 .518
31 Philadelphia Eagles 13-1 .929 92-118 .438
32 Pittsburgh Steelers 14-1 .933 105-119 .469

Looks like #10 - #13 and #22 - #25 (f'in Bills).
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If the Bills miss the playoffs their pick can't be any higher then 20 right? Don't the 12 playoff teams automatically go above records. We picked 21 last year and the Ravens had the 20 selection. So I am guessing if the Bills miss out we will have the 18th or 19th pick???
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If the Bills miss the playoffs their pick can't be any higher then 20 right? Don't the 12 playoff teams automatically go above records. We picked 21 last year and the Ravens had the 20 selection. So I am guessing if the Bills miss out we will have the 18th or 19th pick???
Not 100% sure. They'll be playing the Steelers next week who might put themselves on autopilot in preperation for the playoffs.

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Not 100% sure. They'll be playing the Steelers next week who might put themselves on autopilot in preperation for the playoffs.

Root for the Broncos and J-E-T-S JETS JETS!
I'm pretty sure if they miss their pick will be higher. Well we beat the Foreskins and only dropped two spots. All and all not too bad.
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If the Bills miss the playoffs their pick can't be any higher then 20 right? Don't the 12 playoff teams automatically go above records. We picked 21 last year and the Ravens had the 20 selection. So I am guessing if the Bills miss out we will have the 18th or 19th pick???
if the Bills win and dont make the playoffs (which is possible) they will have the 20th pick, which of course we'll receive...the ebst scenario is for them to lose, because that could affect their pick by a few spots to the good side

the team with the best record that doesnt make the playoffs will have pick #20...the 12 playoff teams have picks 21-32

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Default The Nightmare

Is Bills make playoffs and advance................
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Is Bills make playoffs and advance................
They wont, they wont even make the playoffs, the Jets will.

And we beat Washington and only dropped to #12, Ill take that anyday.
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They wont, they wont even make the playoffs, the Jets will.

And we beat Washington and only dropped to #12, Ill take that anyday.
But we need the Broncos to beat the Colts as well . . . . Hopefully, the Colts do a Philly and rest Manning and Harrison.
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But we need the Broncos to beat the Colts as well . . . . Hopefully, the Colts do a Philly and rest Manning and Harrison.
Jets are almost already in, Its really Denver/Bills fighting for the last spot.
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If the Bills miss the playoffs their pick can't be any higher then 20 right? Don't the 12 playoff teams automatically go above records. We picked 21 last year and the Ravens had the 20 selection. So I am guessing if the Bills miss out we will have the 18th or 19th pick???
All draft positions are in order of worst to best records regardless of playoffs. With the exception of the 2 Super Bowl teams always pick last regardless of their records. Winner choosing 32nd and loser choosing 31st.

So an 8-8 record, and win the SB, you choose last. A 15-1 record, lose the SB, choose 31st.

An 8-8 record, in the playoffs but lose, then you fall back to your normal slot, which could be higher than #20.
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if the Bills win and dont make the playoffs (which is possible) they will have the 20th pick, which of course we'll receive...the ebst scenario is for them to lose, because that could affect their pick by a few spots to the good side

the team with the best record that doesnt make the playoffs will have pick #20...the 12 playoff teams have picks 21-32

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Sorry, but the 12 playoff teams do not automatically pick 21 to 32, see my other post on this.

Unless they changed the rules for this year, which I doubt.
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All draft positions are in order of worst to best records regardless of playoffs. With the exception of the 2 Super Bowl teams always pick last regardless of their records. Winner choosing 32nd and loser choosing 31st.

So an 8-8 record, and win the SB, you choose last. A 15-1 record, lose the SB, choose 31st.

An 8-8 record, in the playoffs but lose, then you fall back to your normal slot, which could be higher than #20.
Nope, wrong. The playoff teams are granted #21-32.
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Sorry, but the 12 playoff teams do not automatically pick 21 to 32, see my other post on this.

Unless they changed the rules for this year, which I doubt.

http://www.nfl.com/ce/multi/0%2C3783...6392%2C00.html


Thats worse news - Bills win and we are looking at #24?
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Sorry, but the 12 playoff teams do not automatically pick 21 to 32, see my other post on this.

Unless they changed the rules for this year, which I doubt.
I dont know where you got the rule you are talking about, but thats the way its been for along time

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Thats worse news - Bills win and we are looking at #24?
I created another thread for you Nors, and that jazzcat fellow...explains what everyone else has tried to tell you two about the draft order....

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