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Old 01-01-2005   #16
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Wasn't Jay a QB at one time? Richie Anderson was as well...
When was Richie a QB? From what I remember, he played Running Back in high school in Maryland. I know he never played a down at Quarterback at Penn State (even in practice).

To me, Jones the Razorback is a pretty long strider. He has very marginal quickness and change of direction. I'm guessing his shuttle time will suck. Maybe he can grow into a TE, but no way he gets any separation on NFL DBs at wideout.
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To me, Jones the Razorback is a pretty long strider. He has very marginal quickness and change of direction. I'm guessing his shuttle time will suck. Maybe he can grow into a TE, but no way he gets any separation on NFL DBs at wideout.
Sounds like Drew Bennett, who's a 1000 yard WR and also played some qb in college, then swapped to WR late and didn't have enough time there to look good coming out of college.

I wouldn't count him out just because he's a long strider and I wouldn't say there's no way he won't get seperation.
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Let's not try to find a pig in a poke any longer....let's stop trying to find a GREAT QB in a low round and for a GREAT price....either we need a QB or we don't....if we do, then stop trying to hit on the unlikely...use a high pick and get a guy that everyone wants...there's a reason they all want him, and while it does happen, it's less likely that a QB everyone is high on will bust than it is that a guy everyone was worried about and you got a great deal on will bust.
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LeFors looks like a QB. Might only be a backup, but hey...it's a living. I don't believe 4.55. I never watched him and went, wow he's a good athlete. Looked like every moderately mobile colege QB.

Matt Jones truly shocked me the first time I saw him. I was expecting MAYBE college era Brett Favre-level athlete. He's somewhere around a Steve McNair-level athlete. It was criminal to keep him at QB. I've seen him outrun SEC cornerbacks too many times to count. Early 4th is too early for me though. I'd be ok anywhere from late 5 to 7 round. I'd prefer undrafted, but I don't see him lasting.
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4.55 may be exagerated for LeFors, but I've seen him outrun db's this year, just like Jones. LeFors definitely is not just your average mobile college QB.
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Nice post SB. I got another angle on QBs in this draft from Rush 2112. I think he raised a really valid point. Due to his late injury Andrew Walters of ASU is likely to drop in the Draft. In him there exists the greatest possibility for a similar situation to Losman last year. If the a team picking early decides to trade back up into the 1st round to our Buffalo pick he is a player they might want to grab. I would think Miami, Arizona, and Cleveland all might be on the phone to Dallas offering for that pick.
I have given some thought to the possibility the Boys might use that second pick in a trade-down scenario, and yours sounds like a highly possibly scenario...

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How about Marcus Vick of Virginia Tech? He played QB and WR for the Hokies. I know he was suspended this year, but I would think some NFL team will be interested in him.
Frankly, when I read that a player has off-field issues, I take him off my draft board... let somebody else roll the dice with the sociopaths coming out of college...
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LeFors looks like a QB. Might only be a backup, but hey...it's a living. I don't believe 4.55. I never watched him and went, wow he's a good athlete. Looked like every moderately mobile colege QB.

Matt Jones truly shocked me the first time I saw him. I was expecting MAYBE college era Brett Favre-level athlete. He's somewhere around a Steve McNair-level athlete. It was criminal to keep him at QB. I've seen him outrun SEC cornerbacks too many times to count. Early 4th is too early for me though. I'd be ok anywhere from late 5 to 7 round. I'd prefer undrafted, but I don't see him lasting.
Well according to NFL Network, Lefors wasn't far from 4.55. They say he ran a 4.62.

I think Jones just uped his stock with a combine record for QB's 4.40
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