Originally Posted by jterrell
Pennington and Bulger had a lot longer on the bench to develop. Even at that Pennington had one good year. He is a good QB if he can stay healthy. Bulger is hanging onto his own job by a thread. Hard to call Bulger far superior to any starting QB.
Brady is fair if you subtract last season. Brady has obviously been a far, far better player.
As to your other points you are simply proving why theres misconceptions spewed nonstop.
1st. TRENT DILFER did lead the Ravens to the Super Bowl. They certianly werent winning every week until he took over at QB. Ray Lewis was their best player but they had 1 QB help win and that was DILFER.
[View Full Quote]2nd. Coslet was a moron. He was fired. He isnt coordinating anyone's offense. His comments about getting Hutch to the Pro Bowl look as stupid as any comments made by fans. He was clueless and cost himself and Dave Campo a job. Carter was a 2nd year QB threw under the bus. Dallas went from 3-4 with QC to 2-7 without. All the Cowboys proved was that they could stomache losing with Carter on the bench. BP obviously was able ot get past the incidents to determine who was gonna play and that soemone was Carter. If Coslet had simply went with the better QB he probably wouldnt be "consulting".
Lastly if you compare every artist to DaVinci, every philosopher to Aristotle, every whatever to the greatest in their field you will everyone lacking. The point is to compare people to their peers. Carter's peers are other young QBs with about 30 starts. Not guys with 50 NFL starts or guys who have started 3 years in NFL Europe to gain experience.
Carter compared to his peers has been developing. Compared to the very best players he isnt as good.
Aikman wasnt Montana either but we didnt cut him now did we? He wasnt even Marino but he won more right? Statisically Aikman was a dink and dunk passer and has nothing close to hall of fame stats but he certianly deserves to be in because he ran the offense to perfection and 3 Super Bowl wins. Emmitt was the best player. Irvin arguably more irreplaceable but Aikman was the QB and QBs lead the offense no matter who is at QB.
Look at rare times Q throws a good accurate ball...I realize.. do to
certain defense alignments, the way a defender is playing the Rec. etc...can
effect where the ball must be thrown but I just got through watching as I do
every off-season the games from the last season...Q's accuracy...
wait...there is no accuracy..its more luck I think..There are times where he
strings together 4-5 semi-good passes (somewhere near the rec.) then he may
throw 2-3 Great passes in a game (picture perfect, sometimes threading the
needle) but then there are the times that the pass is so ugly as to be
unbelievable...but you need not believe me if you have the time and have taped the games go and look for yourself...Its like a Q has a Wonder Arm
you always Wonder what you are gonna get...and that lack of consistence will
and has been Q's undoing...I looked to see if it was caused by pressure from
the pass rush...getting hit to many times...I looked for anything to blame
it on...Nothing, zip, nada it comes at anytime or any point in the
game...comes when we are running the ball well or not...comes when we are
blocking well or not...
A Qb can not play that inconsistently in the NFL and expect to hold onto the
starting job... Some of the INT's are real head scratchers...I have no idea
who, what, or where he was throwing it to...The Tampa bay game was
ugly...The second half of the second Philly game was ugly...Of course
Football is a team game and all elements must be taken in to
consideration...But this thread is not about the team but about the QB play
which was ugly in games I mentioned above...It seems to me if Q tries to
press or get outside of the game plan it gets even worse...see the N.E.
game... The closer we got to the red zone the more inaccurate he
got...notice I did not say the more the rec. disappeared because accurate
throws would have resulted in scores...If his stats from the Coslett year
was extended to a full year for Q he would have done better that year than
he did this year...the O-line was so atrocious in the Coslett year that we
were pulling people of the street to play... and Q was actually doing better
than he did under Parcells with new and improved TE's and better O-line... A
Ritchie Anderson...better coaching...better atmosphere.etc. etc... I seen
no real improvement in Q can any of you honestly say that you did or that
you seen enough to even warrant him starting again...
I know about Q working hard, great guy...blah, blah... but you have to have
results without results you are just spinning your wheels(the NYG first game
was the only game the Offense really won)if by chance Romo, Henson or even
Hutch are close to being ready they need to see the field... I think we are
just spinning our wheels with Q..he had his three+ years I seriously doubt
he will show significant enough improvement in training camp if not we need
to move on...I would see no need to keep him on the roster or to extend his
contract...because a rookie can be just as inaccurate at a cheaper price. Really now Q did not even make a very good bus driver did he...oh sure
there are worse out there...Dumya could be Qbing (do we really want to go
but there are better and we all know it...It is just a matter
of finding it and we can not find it by spinning our wheels...
I believe I am going to join the ABC crowd if I can find the room as it is
getting pretty doggone full... Those of you that have the need to defend
Carter's honor you need not as it is not his honor that I doubt... Its the bus
drivers license..I think it is a counterfeit :-)