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05-08-2010
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Right Kind of Guy
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Amazing Solution to the Oil Spill Disaster
Pardon me, but if our EPA and others do not realize how genius this is then they are friggin' morons.
These guys are geniuses.
http://wimp.com/solutionoil/
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05-08-2010
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Old Testament...
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I don't even have to watch that to confirm they are friggin morons...
It's all about power...
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05-08-2010
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Senior Member
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The patent for that exact process has already expired; it was applied like in 1974. So it's not a new idea.
Sorry I can't provide a link. Read about this yesterday, but am not on the same computer.
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05-08-2010
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That Guy
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Save the environment. Buy Bamooda grass.
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05-08-2010
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Formerly sm0kie13 ROY
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seemes like a damn good idea to me
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05-08-2010
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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I like the idea in theory but the problem becomes a bit tougher when you get it into practice outside of a controlled environment. This was something that has been looked at some years ago but putting into a real life situation was somewhat impractical.
The environment is not as stable as what was shown in the controlled setting and there are many more variables when you get out in the Gulf.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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05-08-2010
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Suspicious looking stranger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
I like the idea in theory but the problem becomes a bit tougher when you get it into practice outside of a controlled environment. This was something that has been looked at some years ago but putting into a real life situation was somewhat impractical.
The environment is not as stable as what was shown in the controlled setting and there are many more variables when you get out in the Gulf.
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Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?
Last edited by Hostile : 05-08-2010 at 11:14 PM.
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05-08-2010
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The Proletariat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signals
Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?
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Probably the difference between a body of still, contained water and a body of constantly churning, unrestrained water.
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05-08-2010
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signals
Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?
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In the video they had a controlled environment. In the Gulf you have weather variables. Wave and current variables. You have animal life.
They had a few pans filled with water, a quart of burned oil and a handful of hay.
Like I said, it is good in theory but in practice it's a whole different ball game.
This is not something that they just thought of by the way, the idea has been around a while. It's just impractical to put into action.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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05-08-2010
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signals
Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?
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Just thinking out loud, I have no clue about any of the numbers or if these are really a factor. A few things that are different in the Gulf:
1. The salinity of the water could affect absorption of oil into the dry grass. Maybe not, but this is different than the lab setting. I mean salty water may be more favored to absorb before the oil can get in.
2. Some of the oil that has been floating on the gulf has probably emulsified a little bit resulting in many small oil bubbles huddled together. The sponge effect of some liquid into a porous solid is kind of a surface tension problem, of which small oil bubbles will have a lot.
3. In the turbulent waters of the gulf, it is possible the hay may disperse apart faster than it can absorb oil. The oil doesn't really disperse as much.
4. Even if the hay does absorb the oil, the longer the hay stays in the water, it could become waterlogged and start to re-release the oil back into the water. The sun could degrade the hay also rendering it ineffective.
5. There is a lot of oil out there right now, even one straw of hay could absorb it's volume in oil and could be removed from the ocean, we would still need to get an equal volume of hay straws out into the ocean.
Once again, I don't know if any specifics of these, I am just throwing out the first things that come to mind.
Last edited by dback : 05-08-2010 at 11:59 PM.
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05-08-2010
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Right Kind of Guy
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This would work. I have used hay to soak up oil many times on the ranch. Start with small patches and scoop it up. The more you get down, the more it will pull out. Waves, etc. will not matter. Hay will not sink and it will pull the oil out of the water. It would be time consuming and drudgery, but little by little it will pull that crap out of the water.
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05-09-2010
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
This would work. I have used hay to soak up oil many times on the ranch. Start with small patches and scoop it up. The more you get down, the more it will pull out. Waves, etc. will not matter. Hay will not sink and it will pull the oil out of the water. It would be time consuming and drudgery, but little by little it will pull that crap out of the water.
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How much waves and Gulf current do you have on that ranch?
The problem would be that the current would in all likelihood move the hay faster than the oil as it comes to the surface. It's just a completely different environment.
Would it absorb some oil? Sure. Would it make a difference? Maybe. Is it a proven solution? No. But obviously they thought the dome would work but it has its problems as well.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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05-09-2010
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Right Kind of Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
How much waves and Gulf current do you have on that ranch?
The problem would be that the current would in all likelihood move the hay faster than the oil as it comes to the surface. It's just a completely different environment.
Would it absorb some oil? Sure. Would it make a difference? Maybe. Is it a proven solution? No. But obviously they thought the dome would work but it has its problems as well.
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Please don't ask me dumb questions and be a smart alec when I am not insulting you in any way.
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05-09-2010
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Please don't ask me dumb questions and be a smart alec when I am not insulting you in any way.
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Umm, I was being sarcastic. you should know I don't mean anything by it. It was kinda a play on an old George Straight song "Oceanfront property".
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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05-09-2010
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Right Kind of Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
Umm, I was being sarcastic. you should know I don't mean anything by it. It was kinda a play on an old George Straight song "Oceanfront property".
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Run with it then. I won't read the thread any more. Have a blast.
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