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Old 07-20-2010   #1
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Audio File Andre Gurode on Galloway & Company

Andre Gurode on Galloway & Company
July, 20, 2010 Jul 206:57PM CTEmail Print Comments By ESPNDallas.comCowboys center Andre Gurode joins GAC to voice his displeasure with conditioning drills and more. Matt Mosley makes jokes.

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wait till you zoners hear how the offensive line works out now, they dont do any long running now, from what i understood gurode say, basically, they run when practicing and then going from drill to another drill on the field

no wonder our offensive got whooped in the vikings game,

and gurode and leonard davis were alittle heavy, their not working on
their conditioning to me
what do you zoners think and did you hear the same thing i heard?
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Looks like the whole Cowboys team has gotten that "Not Going There" thing down. 'Dre wasn't taking the bait either.
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wait till you zoners hear how the offensive line works out now, they dont do any long running now, from what i understood gurode say, basically, they run when practicing and then going from drill to another drill on the field

no wonder our offensive got whooped in the vikings game,

and gurode and leonard davis were alittle heavy, their not working on
their conditioning to me
what do you zoners think and did you hear the same thing i heard?
I heard a different approach but I can't say that it is any better or worse. They just don't do any lallygagging in practice and let that get them in shape.
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I heard a different approach but I can't say that it is any better or worse. They just don't do any lallygagging in practice and let that get them in shape.
i understand that, wades approach seems to be,keep them hoping, but my question is or a football question, if their legs arent in shape, when it comes to 3rd and 1, or 4th and one, really need for the offensive line to push the pile back, which we dont do now days

and how the vikings pass rush ripped our offensive line, just like in the 2007 playoff game against the giants, is that because their conditioning isnt being done right like it should in pro football?
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wait till you zoners hear how the offensive line works out now, they dont do any long running now, from what i understood gurode say, basically, they run when practicing and then going from drill to another drill on the field

no wonder our offensive got whooped in the vikings game,

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Except the team was playing its best football at seasons end, and the OL looked damn good in back to back weeks vs Philly. Kinda blows this line of thinking out of the water.

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i understand that, wades approach seems to be,keep them hoping, but my question is or a football question, if their legs arent in shape, when it comes to 3rd and 1, or 4th and one, really need for the offensive line to push the pile back, which we dont do now days

and how the vikings pass rush ripped our offensive line, just like in the 2007 playoff game against the giants, is that because their conditioning isnt being done right like it should in pro football?
So why didnt the Saints, Redskins and Eagles whip our OL?

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So why didnt the Saints, Redskins and Eagles whip our OL?
well im thinking this, by end of season winds down, our offensive line is wearing down, because they arent in the greatest shape conditioning wise

kinda like nate newton said in the 2007 loss to giants that our offensive linemen werent doing their cardivacular work and conditioning during the bye week and week leading up to the playoff game against giants in 2007, that wade was trusting them to do so, but they werent

where as i understand it, jimmy johnson would fine tune the players and be sure they were in top shape come playoff game, seeing that they did their work, but wade trusts the players to be professionals and do the work, so the offensive line isnt doing what they should late in year in conditioining, etc...

thats the question i have
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i understand that, wades approach seems to be,keep them hoping, but my question is or a football question, if their legs arent in shape, when it comes to 3rd and 1, or 4th and one, really need for the offensive line to push the pile back, which we dont do now days because their conditioning isnt being done right like it should in pro football?
Well, you have to remember that football now is a year-round deal, where the players don't have as much opportunity to get out of shape.

In the past, all those running conditioning drills were used to get players in shape. They shouldn't be necessary any longer.

I don't think the condition of our linemen was as much of a liability as their lack of mobility those times that they struggled. This group, except for Kosier some, doesn't get overpowered much, but have troubles with quickness, blitzes, stunts and the like.
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Well, you have to remember that football now is a year-round deal, where the players don't have as much opportunity to get out of shape.

In the past, all those running conditioning drills were used to get players in shape. They shouldn't be necessary any longer.

I don't think the condition of our linemen was as much of a liability as their lack of mobility those times that they struggled. This group, except for Kosier some, doesn't get overpowered much, but have troubles with quickness, blitzes, stunts and the like.
oh ok, thats why i was asking

just seems to me, that in 2007 at end of year playoff game, our offensive line stunk the place up

then in 2008 last game of the season in phily, we got killed by our offensive line

then in 2010 in minny game, again our offensive line got killed by the vikings

seems like to me some kinda of coorelation there with our offensive line
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wait till you zoners hear how the offensive line works out now, they dont do any long running now, from what i understood gurode say, basically, they run when practicing and then going from drill to another drill on the field

no wonder our offensive got whooped in the vikings game,

and gurode and leonard davis were alittle heavy, their not working on
their conditioning to me
what do you zoners think and did you hear the same thing i heard?
I think you're waaaay off base with your analogy, that's what I think.
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I think you're waaaay off base with your analogy, that's what I think.
wont be the first time im off base or the last, or that im right,

you win some and you lose some

cant get them all right all the time,
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wont be the first time im off base or the last, or that im right,

you win some and you lose some

cant get them all right all the time,
Huh!!!! Dude it's cool. You asked what we thought and I answered you. It's really not about you being right or wrong.. Relax!!!!
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Huh!!!! Dude it's cool. You asked what we thought and I answered you. It's really not about you being right or wrong.. Relax!!!!
im cool about it buddy, no problem

heck most of the time, LOL, im wrong, but hey, thats what the board is about, to share info, talk about the cowboys with other great fans like you and others
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wait till you zoners hear how the offensive line works out now, they dont do any long running now, from what i understood gurode say, basically, they run when practicing and then going from drill to another drill on the field

no wonder our offensive got whooped in the vikings game,

and gurode and leonard davis were alittle heavy, their not working on
their conditioning to me
what do you zoners think and did you hear the same thing i heard?
Joe, you're a great fan, but you'd make one lousy coach... just trust that Wade knows what he's doing when it comes to conditioning and such...
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