Go Back   Dallas Cowboys Forum - CowboysZone.com > Main Forums > Sports Zone

Cowboys Chat: 0 user(s) online


Home  |  Fan Zone  |  News Zone  |  Draft Zone  |  Off-topic Zone  |  Forum Rules  |  Chat  |  ** Change Graphics **

Reply
 
Display Modes Thread Tools
Old 08-27-2010   #1
joseephuss
Senior Member
 
joseephuss's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Austin, TX
Posts:
17,951
Default Strasburg may need Tommy John surgery

I knew this guy was going to be a bust. Just joking, I feel bad for the kid.


http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-2011-season/1

Stephen Strasburg likely to have 'Tommy John' surgery, may miss 2011 season

Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo announced this morning that pitching phenom Stephen Strasburg will probably require "Tommy John" elbow ligament replacement surgery.

Strasburg left his last start on Saturday with what was was initially diagnosed as a strained tendon in his forearm. But on Thursday he had a second MRI exam that showed a "significant tear of his ulnar collateral ligament," according to Rizzo.

Rizzo said Strasburg will seek a second opinion from Lewis Yocum. If Yocum agrees that surgery is necessary, Strasburg would have the procedure as soon as possible. The recovery time from "Tommy John" surgery for a pitcher is typically at least 12 months, meaning Strasburg would likely miss all of the 2011 season.

"He turned from being upset to being really focused and ready to take on this new thing on his life," Rizzo said of Strasburg, who was not in attendance at the news conference at Nationals Park. "We've had successful ones in the past, and we feel this is going to be no different. Stephen is going to be a dedicated, focused individual."

Strasburg was the first overall pick in the 2009 draft and signed a record $15.1 million contract with the Nationals. He made his pro debut this season, pitching at Class AA and AAA before being promoted to the major leagues in June. He struck out 14 in seven innings vs. the Pirates to earn a victory in his first start, dazzling baseball and creating excitement around a struggling Nationals franchise.

He continued to pitch well, with the team monitoring his workload and keeping him to less than 100 pitches in every start. He missed a start in July when he felt tightness in his shoulder warming up and was placed on the disabled list. He came back to make three starts and finishes the season 5-3 with a 2.91 ERA and 92 strikeouts in 68 innings.

"It's frustrating, because this happens to people you think it shouldn't happen to," Rizzo said. "This player was developed and cared for the correct way. Things like this happen. Pitchers break down. Pitchers get hurt. We're satisfied with the way he was developed. I know (Strasburg's agent) Scott Boras was satisfied with the way he's been treated, and Stephen is also. We're good with that. Frustrated, yes. Second-guessing ourselves, no."

The Nationals lost another top pitching prospect, Jordan Zimmermann, a year ago to "Tommy John" surgery. Zimmermann returned to action on Thursday and allowed five runs in four innings.

"It's a tough day for (Strasburg) and for all of us, for everyone who's a Nats fan," Nationals president Stan Kasten said. "But we saw Jordan (Zimmermann) come back last night. A year from today, Stephen will be joining him."

By Peter Barzilai
joseephuss is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 08-27-2010   #2
DCBoysfan
Hardwork and Dedication
 
DCBoysfan's Avatar
Years Donated
2009, 2010, 2012
 
Joined:
Aug 2005
Location:
Dunder Mifflin
Posts:
3,982
Default

CRAP!!!! I read that, the Nats dont have much to look foward to he was the lone bright spot.
I may live in DC but my heart is with the COWBOYS!!!!!..A Storm is coming!!
DCBoysfan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #3
Yeagermeister
Senior Member
 
Yeagermeister's Avatar
Years Donated
2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
47,526
Default

Kerry Wood all over again
RIP Weldon "Pops" Parkhill....I will miss you my friend
R.I.P. Renee I miss you sis
Yeagermeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #4
Joe Realist
Senior Member
 
Joe Realist's Avatar
Years Donated
2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
Apr 2008
Location:
6-10 in 2013
Posts:
6,021
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeagermeister View Post
Kerry Wood all over again

I was thinking the exact same thing.

" At least I have a pretty wife..."
Joe Realist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #5
theebs
Believe!!!!
 
theebs's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2010
 
Joined:
Feb 2006
Location:
Cookies?
Posts:
20,488
Default

I wonder if he will have the surgery here. One of the arm doctors is in arlington.
theebs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #6
JPM
Senior Member
 
JPM's Avatar
Years Donated
2007
 
Joined:
Feb 2005
Location:
GTL !!
Posts:
5,292
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeagermeister View Post
Kerry Wood all over again
Or Mark Prior.
JPM is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #7
bbgun
Banned
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
DC suburb
Posts:
27,870
Default

Looks like their version of the "Joba Rules" didn't work.
bbgun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #8
Sam I Am
Unfriendly and Aloof!
 
Sam I Am's Avatar
 
Joined:
May 2006
Location:
Betelgeuse
Posts:
30,975
Default

This is what happens when players try to physically beat a batter vs using skill and your head.

The ability to replicate perfect form and a consistent release along with studying batters tendencies are most important. Velocity and big movement are great and improve your chances, but if you are over-throwing to gain those advantages; you are going to be doom to inconsistency and probably injury.

CJ Wilson is a good example of this. When he was in the bullpen, he would over-throw sometimes trying to give it everything he had to get the guy out. Moving him into a starting role forced him to stop over-throwing the ball because he had to pitch more innings. This allowed him to create a consistent form and release allowing him to improve his accuracy.

Right now, CJ Wilson is the best pitcher the Texas Rangers have. (yes, better than Cliff Lee at this point) He dominates when he is on the mound.
Formerly the notorious nyc!

I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!

There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.

If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.



Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
Sam I Am is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #9
jimmy40
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
14,223
Default

funny how today the experts are on tv showing how his mechanics are so bad and it was easy to see this coming.
jimmy40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #10
ABQCOWBOY
Moderator
 
ABQCOWBOY's Avatar
Years Donated
2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
29,561
Default

If I were the Nationals, I'd be asking some hard question about my pitching coaches right about now. Two young pitchers suffering the same injury usually points to poor coaching. They are either throwing something that they should not be throwing or they are being coached poorly in so far as mechanics.
ABQCOWBOY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #11
Sam I Am
Unfriendly and Aloof!
 
Sam I Am's Avatar
 
Joined:
May 2006
Location:
Betelgeuse
Posts:
30,975
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY View Post
If I were the Nationals, I'd be asking some hard question about my pitching coaches right about now. Two young pitchers suffering the same injury usually points to poor coaching. They are either throwing something that they should not be throwing or they are being coached poorly in so far as mechanics.
Sometimes the coach just needs to tell the player to easy up and just throw strikes. Young guys are especially prone to trying to hard.

Mariano Rivera did the same thing. He tried to improve his slider and screwed off his arm and was expected to have Tommy John surgery, but the doctor decide he didn't need it during the first surgery. Rivera learning this lesson is the reason he he also learned to depend on his cut fastball which in comparison to most other pitches is one of the least violent pitches arm wise thrown today.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
In 1992, Rivera was promoted to the Class A-Advanced Fort Lauderdale Yankees of the Florida State League (FSL). He started 10 games in Fort Lauderdale, compiling a 5–3 win–loss record and a 2.28 ERA. He attempted to improve the movement on his slider by snapping his wrist in his pitching motion, but he inadvertently caused damage to the ulnar collateral ligament in his throwing elbow. He had elbow surgery in August 1992 to repair the damage, ending his season and briefly interrupting his minor league career. It was expected that he would require Tommy John surgery, but during the procedure Rivera's doctors determined that he did not need ligament replacement. His rehabilitation coincided with the 1992 expansion draft to fill the rosters for the Florida Marlins and Colorado Rockies expansion teams. Rivera was left unprotected by the Yankees but was not drafted. He successfully rehabilitated his arm in the early part of 1993 and resumed pitching that year. He first joined the Rookie [View Full Quote]
They need to just let the kid know he doesn't have to throw hard pitches, just throw good pitches.
Formerly the notorious nyc!

I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!

There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.

If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.



Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
Sam I Am is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #12
TheDallasDon
Bi-polar? I'm Bi-winning, I've got Tigers blood and Adonis DNA!!
 
TheDallasDon's Avatar
 
Joined:
Feb 2010
Location:
Tyler,Tx
Posts:
2,240
Default

Wow I gess he;s not the next Noylan Ryan................Is that wrong? hmmmp dont care

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameover View Post
Romo is 100% the main problem.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gameover View Post
I see a team that could finish 4-12.
TheDallasDon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #13
JPM
Senior Member
 
JPM's Avatar
Years Donated
2007
 
Joined:
Feb 2005
Location:
GTL !!
Posts:
5,292
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY View Post
If I were the Nationals, I'd be asking some hard question about my pitching coaches right about now. Two young pitchers suffering the same injury usually points to poor coaching. They are either throwing something that they should not be throwing or they are being coached poorly in so far as mechanics.
I don't think he's throwing anything different, it might be his mechanics.

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/...Strasburg.html
JPM is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010   #14
Bob Sacamano
Banned
Years Donated
2007
 
Joined:
Apr 2005
Posts:
57,074
Default

Rob Biddle must feel pretty stupid right about now. He basically called him a wuss.
Bob Sacamano is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004-2012 CowboysZone.com