From another board...Ferguson in the bag - Dallas Cowboys Forum

lcharles · 02-28-2005

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Ferguson to Dallas is all but done. People from the office of Mr. Sexon the agent for both Ferguson and Parcells indicate that they have the NFL contract in their office from the Dallas Cowboys for Ferguson. They say the contract was reviewed by para-legals in the office and it had been signed and had been initialed by Sexon. No signatures or initials were on the contract made by Ferguson.

can't substantiate this but it's sounds good to me!

AdamJT13 · 02-28-2005

It's bogus. Ferguson is still under contract with the New York Jets and any contact whatsoever -- let alone a contract offer -- would be tampering. We can't even call Ferguson until 11 p.m. Central on Tuesday night.

lcharles · 02-28-2005

I suspected as much.

Probably just the wishful thinking of a bored fan wanting to make a splash on a message board.

ghst187 · 02-28-2005

true or not, i hope we get him...
IMO, would be the single biggest impacting FA signing we could make.
Shore up the DL, and the entire D instantly gets better.

jlust22 · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's bogus. Ferguson is still under contract with the New York Jets and any contact whatsoever -- let alone a contract offer -- would be tampering. We can't even call Ferguson until 11 p.m. Central on Tuesday night.

Obviously to say a player has already agreed to a contract before March 2 is bogus, but I wonder how much tampering does go on before the free agency period begins. The rules state you can't even talk to a player or his agent before his contract expires on March 2, but you have to believe agents are getting feelers from teams about interest in their clients. Consequently, I would think agents are also putting out feelers to teams as to the range of what type of contract it would take to interest their client. I could be wrong, but I would think overseeing tampering issues would be difficult for the NFL.

Its like with the NHL when their free agency period begins on 12:00 AM on July 1st and suddenly the top players are signing hours after the beginning of free agency. You can't tell me agents weren't already talking to interested teams about dollar figures.

Rack Bauer · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's bogus. Ferguson is still under contract with the New York Jets and any contact whatsoever -- let alone a contract offer -- would be tampering. We can't even call Ferguson until 11 p.m. Central on Tuesday night.

I agree no contract has been signed, but I wouldn't doubt that "talks" have taken place. It happens all the time I'm sure.

**WoodysGirl** · 02-28-2005

Well in several reports I've read in the last few days, it's been widely assumed that agents are huddling up with GMs and whoever's in charge of personnel because of the time constraints between the combine and the beginning of FA. So, I don't think it's too off the wall to assume that the contractual parameters are in place for a quick signing at March 2, 12:00 am for a lot of FAs.

thewivil · 02-28-2005

If you honestly think no negotiations have been going on between Parcells and Sexton, then you're blind. They have the same agent!

Someone said it in another thread. Don't you think it's kinda curious that all these players sign contracts the first day of free agency? Do you really think a team calls them and they agree to a contract within 20 minutes? Heck no, these conversations and feelers go on days and weeks before free agency begins.

It's just common sense really.

LA=Pancakemaker · 02-28-2005

That sounds good. lets move on...whos next? much work to do before players start disappearing!

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by LA=Pancakemaker

That sounds good. lets move on...whos next? much work to do before players start disappearing!

LA, can't say enough about your pics man. Just some really strong work your doing there.

LOL

DWAREZ · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's bogus. Ferguson is still under contract with the New York Jets and any contact whatsoever -- let alone a contract offer -- would be tampering. We can't even call Ferguson until 11 p.m. Central on Tuesday night.

Go read John Claytons Article on the GM meetings on March 2 and the combine. Teams almost have to lay the ground work now because March 2 is the GM meetings, it is being overlooked because of this context.

They may not contact the player but can negotiate with the agent.

AdamJT13 · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by thewivil

If you honestly think no negotiations have been going on between Parcells and Sexton, then you're blind.

I never said there weren't any talks going on, atlhough I seriously doubt *specific* contract details have been negotiated. I said the claim that there was a formal contract for Ferguson that has been signed and initialed by Sexton is bogus. There's absolutely no reason for such blatant tampering when he'll be a free agent in less than two days anyway.

dbair1967 · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by lcharles

can't substantiate this but it's sounds good to me!

you cant do this until Wednesday...he may have secretly agreed to terms, but nothing can possibly be signed and at the league office...somebody made this up

David

silverbear · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by thewivil

If you honestly think no negotiations have been going on between Parcells and Sexton, then you're blind. They have the same agent!

But that IS tampering, so if it's going on, do you REALLY think the media would get a whiff of it?? When Bill Parcells pulls down the Cone Of Silence over Valley Ranch the first day of every offseason??

While there might indeed be negotiations under way, this particular report is bovine fecal matter...

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Someone said it in another thread. Don't you think it's kinda curious that all these players sign contracts the first day of free agency? Do you really think a team calls them and they agree to a contract within 20 minutes? Heck no, these conversations and feelers go on days and weeks before free agency begins.

It's just common sense really.

Just like it's common sense that if the Boys ARE tampering, they're gonna be quite secretive about it, thus making it VERY unlikely that any mediot would get a whiff of it...

Or does your common sense tell you that the Cowboys would be up for losing a draft pick or two??

**jobberone** · 02-28-2005

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's bogus. Ferguson is still under contract with the New York Jets and any contact whatsoever -- let alone a contract offer -- would be tampering. We can't even call Ferguson until 11 p.m. Central on Tuesday night.

I doubt there is a contract out there being reviewed by anyone enough to make it public. But I think Parcells/JJ certainly could have been hammering out a contract with Sexton over Ferguson. Backdoor deals are made all the time in business.