Could Gannon Drive The Bus?

[jimmy40]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

He took more than 3 years to become the man at qb funny how that is. I remeber when Gannon use to start for the Vikes and how everyone treated him like QC not saying that QC will ever reach the level Gannon has at this time.

But it is funny how everyone on here is acting like a guy that has played 3 years should be an all pro when Gannon did not become a probowler till like year 7 and he had chances to start other places and did.

Just like Hutch he may still turn out to be a good QB in two years but it looks like he still needs another year of development he was away for 4 years. So do not right off those QB's just yet. There is always hope it just maybe with another team.

Jake Delhoume spent 5 years as a backup getting like 2 starts

I just want to see QC stand in the freaking pocket, complete a pass for a big play knowing he's going to get hit in the face and knocked on his *** instead of turning tail and running or throwing the ball up for grabs every time he thinks he might be touched.

[Nightshade]

We've got our three.

Veteran QC
Backup Romo
Superstar in training Henson

[junk]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

He took more than 3 years to become the man at qb funny how that is. I remeber when Gannon use to start for the Vikes and how everyone treated him like QC not saying that QC will ever reach the level Gannon has at this time.

But it is funny how everyone on here is acting like a guy that has played 3 years should be an all pro when Gannon did not become a probowler till like year 7 and he had chances to start other places and did.

Just like Hutch he may still turn out to be a good QB in two years but it looks like he still needs another year of development he was away for 4 years. So do not write off those QB's just yet. There is always hope it just maybe with another team.

Jake Delhoume spent 5 years as a backup getting like 2 starts

Gannon didn't develop until he landed in an offense that was specifically tailored to his abilities. QC has that already. Let's see if he can improve this year. I don't want to wait around until QC is in his 30s to see if he is going to develop.

[cowheel]

Lord have mercy.... here we go again.

[Chuck 54]

Originally Posted by pbthal

Assuming Collins gets the Raiders gig and they cut Gannon, could he drive the bus for a year or two till Henson is ready, at the least he is a better option than Testaverde.

NO...NO...NOPE

[Nors]

Quincy
Testaverde/Huard
Romo
Henson

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

He took more than 3 years to become the man at qb funny how that is. I remeber when Gannon use to start for the Vikes and how everyone treated him like QC not saying that QC will ever reach the level Gannon has at this time.

But it is funny how everyone on here is acting like a guy that has played 3 years should be an all pro when Gannon did not become a probowler till like year 7 and he had chances to start other places and did.

Just like Hutch he may still turn out to be a good QB in two years but it looks like he still needs another year of development he was away for 4 years. So do not write off those QB's just yet. There is always hope it just maybe with another team.

Jake Delhoume spent 5 years as a backup getting like 2 starts

Your right some guys it will take several years and a couple of teams before they develope, now are your willing to wait 3 or 4 more years on Carter? I know I'm not and I doubt the Cowboys would be willing to give Carter another contract if his level of play does not increase big time

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

He took more than 3 years to become the man at qb funny how that is. I remeber when Gannon use to start for the Vikes and how everyone treated him like QC not saying that QC will ever reach the level Gannon has at this time.

But it is funny how everyone on here is acting like a guy that has played 3 years should be an all pro when Gannon did not become a probowler till like year 7 and he had chances to start other places and did.

Just like Hutch he may still turn out to be a good QB in two years but it looks like he still needs another year of development he was away for 4 years. So do not write off those QB's just yet. There is always hope it just maybe with another team.

Jake Delhoume spent 5 years as a backup getting like 2 starts

This is an interesting post. I think there is a valid point here but I think it's also worth pointing out that Gannon took over 10 years to develope. I would also point out that he was not a starter for the majority of that time. I have no problem with QC taking time to develope. I have a problem with people wanting us to be patient will this is going on as our starter. Does anybody really want to wait 10 years before QC is ready? I would also point out that Gannon started exactly 0 games in his first 3 seaons. In his 4th season, he started 12 games and posted a 68.9 QB rating. In his 5th season, he started 11 games and posted an 81.5 QB rating. Basically, by his second season of actually playing, he was posting far superior numbers then QC. I think it's a bit mis leading to compare Gannon's situation with QC. They are obviously very different QBs in very different circumstances.

If your saying we need to be patient, well, I can agree. The one major difference between then and now is that there was no cap and in 1987, you could afford to be patient. I think it is worth mentioning that the development of Gannon took the time it took and no less then 3 other teams (Vikings, Redskins and KC)basically paid for Gannon's developement. It's interesting that it was actually the 4th team (Oakland) that actually reeped the bennifits of his long developement. Patients is a great thing, it's just not very realistic any longer. Also, why is it that while everybody is so willing to put fourth the idea of patients where Carter is concerned, nobody seems to be very willing to indourse the idea that perhaps patients with Carter, from the bench, might be the better solution? After all, if your going to say that Carter could eventually be like Gannon, why not get comfortable with the fact that Gannon spent years on the bench rather then developing in the starters role?

[Kangaroo]

Like with Hutch the problem I have people on this board are trying to rush Henson already
People where rushing Hutch after QC had some bad games

How about having some patiance and not just throwing every QB out there because he did not turn all pro after two years

Cinci sat Palmer one year to groom behind Kitna which was probaly a smart thing to do so he could work on the little thing like footwork; how to study film etc etc

But Cnci also got lucky they did not make the playoffs. I really beielve if the Bengals would have made the playoffs Kitna would still be starting (imo)

I understand not waiting 10 years on QC another team may benefit from us developing QC; Problem is to many people where not even giving the QB 1 or 2 years not to mention the staff

That is why I have tried to stay away from bashing Hutch to hard he needs more time to learn; problem is his learning days in Dallas maybe over but I think he will land some where

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

Like with Hutch the problem I have people on this board are trying to rush Henson already
People where rushing Hutch after QC had some bad games

How about having some patiance and not just throwing every QB out there because he did not turn all pro after two years

Cinci sat Palmer one year to groom behind Kitna which was probaly a smart thing to do so he could work on the little thing like footwork; how to study film etc etc

But Cnci also got lucky they did not make the playoffs. I really beielve if the Bengals would have made the playoffs Kitna would still be starting (imo)

I understand not waiting 10 years on QC another team may benefit from us developing QC; Problem is to many people where not even giving the QB 1 or 2 years not to mention the staff

[View Full Quote]That is why I have tried to stay away from bashing Hutch to hard he needs more time to learn; problem is his learning days in Dallas maybe over but I think he will land some where

No matter how much some want to rush Henson, Parcells is not going to insert him into the lineup until he feels Henson is ready. As for when Henson will be ready that is anyones guess, come pre-season we will at least see where Henson is in his learning process.

[Klemster]

I don't think that our offense will be a good fit for Gannon plus it still seems that he thinks that he is a starter. I don't think he would be interested in being the elder statesman and teaching our young quarterbacks the ropes (from what little I have read about his situation). Of course if he can't find another team to play for, he might change his mind.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

Like with Hutch the problem I have people on this board are trying to rush Henson already
People where rushing Hutch after QC had some bad games

How about having some patiance and not just throwing every QB out there because he did not turn all pro after two years

Cinci sat Palmer one year to groom behind Kitna which was probaly a smart thing to do so he could work on the little thing like footwork; how to study film etc etc

But Cnci also got lucky they did not make the playoffs. I really beielve if the Bengals would have made the playoffs Kitna would still be starting (imo)

I understand not waiting 10 years on QC another team may benefit from us developing QC; Problem is to many people where not even giving the QB 1 or 2 years not to mention the staff

[View Full Quote]That is why I have tried to stay away from bashing Hutch to hard he needs more time to learn; problem is his learning days in Dallas maybe over but I think he will land some where

I absolutly agree that both Hutchinson and Carter were miss handled. That is actually why this entire thing pisses me off so much. Let me say that I don't believe there is any set time for a QB to sit and learn. Every QB is different and there are cases to support vertually any option where young QBs are concerned. Having said that, I can recall several years ago debating this issue where Carter is concerned. I remember pointing out these same facts then. I can recall pointing out that this very scenario could play out where QC is concerned. The popular stance then was to play him right away. Aikman played right away and so QC should as well. How else will he learn? Well, here we are, three years later and the same people who screamed for him to start, are now trying to justify that with the excuse that we have invested so much time and I don't want to start over with a rookie. News flash, this was coming since the day you clamoured for this guy to start. The point then was, what if he fails? Then we are all back at square one. Well, four years later, we still don't know if we have a QB. If Henson is ready to start at some point this season, then let him start learning. We have literally waisted seasons with QC. Not saying he wont develope. I'm saying he has 5 to 8 games to do it, maybe less if we sign a compitant back-up. Maybe it wasn't QCs fault but what does that really matter? Like the situation with QCs legions of fans, it doesn't do any good to go back and say, I told you so. Bothers the hell out of me but nothing to be done now except make the best of it. Bottom line, all the people who have support QC for these many years got what they asked for. Now, there are only a few games left for him to prove he is what they thought he could be. Win lose or draw, I am anciouse for the day when we can finally be done with this experiment. Either he is a real QB or he is not and lets finally get our collective arses on down the road.

[CATCH17]

When Gannon was haveing a big year he was almost untouched on every play. Our line would have to be exceptional for him to be average.