Adam Caplan: Mallett fall to 3rd round? - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

joseephuss · 02-09-2011

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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Not me. Rivers was a very good decision maker at NCSt. He was a little bit high strung and real cocky but he was always a pretty good decision maker so far as I remember. His throwing motion was odd, 3/4 motion but I really liked him as a prospect.

Mallet, at least from what I've seen, he's a little different. He has skills. Probably the most talented throwing QB in this draft but he makes poor decisions on occasion. IDK. All I know is that I liked Rivers a lot more then I do Mallet coming out.

I was only referring to them being similar from a physical aspect. As far as decision making Mallett isn't close to Rivers when he was coming out of college.

Footwork is big in my opinion. And good footwork isn't just about a QB being a good athlete, either. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are not good athletes, but they both know how to move their feet. Their ability to get their feet set when they throw the ball leads to their success. It is part of making good decisions. Romo is good at setting his feet on his throws. Quincy Carter, for example was horrible at setting his feet.

Any QB can drop back and at the top of his drop set his feet and throw. When the primary option/quick throw is not there or when there is pressure the good QBs can reset their feet and make good throws. I have not seen Mallett do that in college. He gets flustered and he lets his footwork mechanics falter.

Better footwork can be learned, but I am not spending a 1st round pick on a QB that needs to learn that aspect of the game. That is why I can see Mallett dropping.

Chocolate Lab · 02-09-2011

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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

Albert Breer also reported that he has a lot of "baggage" that is going to hurt him in the draft. He doens't have really any red warning signals on his criminal record other than a misdemeanor public intoxication charge. Maybe there's more to his transfer from Michigan than meets the eye. Haven't seen a fire as of yet, but there's certainly a lot of smoke.

Galloway has been saying for a few weeks now that some scouts he's talked to are invoking the name of... Ryan Leaf. Not sure if that's laziness, or lack of smarts, or just general attitude. Or all of those.

realtick · 02-09-2011

On pure QB skills alone, I'd take Mallett over Jake Locker all day and twice on Sundays.

Randy White · 02-10-2011

Philips Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler... better than Locker, top 6 arm in the NFL, most talented passer in the draft..

amazing..

Randy White · 02-10-2011

Ryan Mallett

Byron Leftwich.

Almost identical size, similar mobility, pretty much the same arm strength. Their biggest problem ? Both have a windmill throwing motion that slows down their release tremendously. That's really why Leftwich wasn't able to develop into a long term starter in the league and why Mallett's stock has been dropping faster than the market crash of the early 30's.

To compare him with Cutler, who's passes look like bullets coming out of his hands ? and Philip Rivers, who's a Dan Marino clone when it comes to quick releases ? Really ?

burmafrd · 02-10-2011

Most of the big time busts at QB have been guys that have big arms and small brains. Jeff George, etc. So any time I see someone boasting about a QB with a big arm, I doubt it.

InmanRoshi · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Galloway has been saying for a few weeks now that some scouts he's talked to are invoking the name of... Ryan Leaf. Not sure if that's laziness, or lack of smarts, or just general attitude. Or all of those.

Apparently there are some concerns and issues of the Matt Jones variety.

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/news/cha...-ryan-mallett/

TheFinisher · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by Randy White

Ryan Mallett

Byron Leftwich.

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Mallett is actually more like Kerry Collins, he doesn't have the long release that Leftwich has.

His stock is dropping because of reported drug use, not his ability as a passer. That's a big character concern for teams but even so he won't fall to the 3rd round, I still think he goes in the top 40 picks.

Sam I Am · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by Wimbo

http://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/35164943364001792#
Wouldn't shock me to see Mallett fall to the 3rd. RT @JCentifonti: @caplannfl Wondering could Newton & or Mallett fall out of the 1st round?

He is siting "baggage, not the kind you carry" as his reasoning.

Kind of shocker, eh?

No way Mallett falls to the 3rd. At the absolute latest, he will go mid to early 2nd I think.

I wouldn't draft Cam Newton in the first and I wouldn't draft him to be a QB either. Since that is what I'm sure he will demand, I just wouldn't draft Cam.

Sam I Am · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

Apparently there are some concerns and issues of the Matt Jones variety.

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/news/cha...-ryan-mallett/

Ouch. That will kill a QBs draft stock quick.

realtick · 02-10-2011

For some reason I can see Mallett getting drafted, becoming someone's problem for three or four seasons, getting released, finding himself and then becoming a good player.

InmanRoshi · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by realtick

For some reason I can see Mallett getting drafted, becoming someone's problem for three or four seasons, getting released, finding himself and then becoming a good player.

Aka Kerry Collins.

alohawg · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by realtick

For some reason I can see Mallett getting drafted, becoming someone's problem for three or four seasons, getting released, finding himself and then becoming a good player.

I see him as a QB that will beat the Dallas defense like a drum for years to come ala Randy Moss. Of course everybody will claim they knew how good he was gonna be etc.....
Now, can someone explain the Locker lovefest???

InmanRoshi · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by alohawg

I see him as a QB that will beat the Dallas defense like a drum for years to come ala Randy Moss. Of course everybody will claim they knew how good he was gonna be etc.....
Now, can someone explain the Locker lovefest???

I haven't seen a lovefest for Locker in quite some time. I think many people think he's basically a 3rd round or later prospect. Maybe 2nd round if someone falls in love with him and reaches for him.

joseephuss · 02-10-2011

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Originally Posted by alohawg

I see him as a QB that will beat the Dallas defense like a drum for years to come ala Randy Moss. Of course everybody will claim they knew how good he was gonna be etc.....
Now, can someone explain the Locker lovefest???

Everybody did know how good Moss was going to be. The question was could he stay out of trouble. And he wasn't going to stay out of trouble if he was in Dallas.

Dallas can pass on Mallett. Mostly because they have Tony Romo. I don't think Mallett is going to be special. Even if I am wrong, Dallas still has Romo, so getting Mallet would not solve anything.