SI.com's Don Banks: insight's from today's Combine workouts. - Dallas Cowboys Forum

cowboyjoe · 02-28-2011

Locker also ran well, posting an official 4.59 in the 40 (NFL Network first reported a 4.52 but later changed), so his trademark athleticism was on display. More than anything, Locker gave teams hoping to see improvement in his accuracy -- he's working on it with former NFL quarterback Ken O'Brien -- reason for optimism, and he kept himself in the hunt for first-round consideration.

"I feel like Jake really proved himself today,'' said noted draft analyst A.J. Green, the Georgia receiver who caught passes from Locker. "He was throwing that thing pretty nice out there. There are a lot of questions out there about him, but I think he answered a lot of them.''

• It's hard to make the case that Auburn defensive tackle Nick Fairley's combine enhanced his candidacy to go first overall in April. For starters, he showed up smaller than advertised, measuring 6-3 and 291, when it was thought he was in the range of 6-5, 300. The NFL likes those 300-pound defensive tackles, and Alabama's Marcell Dareus, the draft's other elite tackle, checked in at 6-3½, 319 by comparison.

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ThreeSportStar80 · 02-28-2011

Locker is a workout warrior... I look at game film where he didn't impress at all.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 02-28-2011

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Locker is a workout warrior... I look at game film where he didn't impress at all.

You look at game film.

That cracks me up.

Although I agree he is too inconsistent the idea that you look at game film just tickles me.

Hoofbite · 02-28-2011

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You look at game film.

That cracks me up.

Although I agree he is too inconsistent the idea that you look at game film just tickles me.

Don't you know everyone's a scout these days?

ThreeSportStar80 · 02-28-2011

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You look at game film.

That cracks me up.

Although I agree he is too inconsistent the idea that you look at game film just tickles me.

Well hey I can't help if I'm a student of the game...

**BrAinPaiNt** · 02-28-2011

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Well hey I can't help if I'm a student of the game...

You do realize that games you watch or record on TV is not exactly the same as "game tape"...at least I hope you do.

SilverStarCowboy · 02-28-2011

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You do realize that games you watch or record on TV is not exactly the same as "game tape"...at least I hope you do.

Randy White · 02-28-2011

he could have hacked into the NFL gamefilms site that NFL coaches use for studying.. It is on-line.

but I understand what he meant because I do the same thing. It might not be " game film ", but if you know what you're looking for and know of a couple of cheap video editing features on Windows media and real player, you can learn quite a bit.

fortdick · 02-28-2011

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You do realize that games you watch or record on TV is not exactly the same as "game tape"...at least I hope you do.

Youtube has the game films. All scouts watch youtube, don't ya know?

jterrell · 02-28-2011

Locker is a great QB ... if you need an anchor on your 4x400 QB relay team.

His 40 time is pointless.
Brady and Manning run in the 5's and win just fine.

QB is accuracy first and that is where Locker struggles.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-28-2011

Locker, to me, is interesting. He probably has the best overall set of skills of all the QBs this year. He needs work and time to develop, that's true but the Cowboys are in a bit of a unique situation here. He would be a guy that if they decided to take him, would be able to sit and learn. He could develop and by year 3, could be in a position to really challenge. That would put Tony in about his 11 season. Would be very interesting to see what the Cowboys might do n that situation.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 02-28-2011

He is very inconsistent. I think a good deal of his accuracy issues is due to his footwork. I think if he had a good coach can work with him enough to get that changed it would make a big difference. He also has to work on his decision making of course. I think at times he put too much of the offense on his shoulders to try and get a win (whether that was all on him or if it was kind of pushed on to him).

Personally there are a couple of QBs I like later.

Dalton - much later, Don't know if he would ever be a starter but I think he has the makings of a good backup. I guess the same could be said of McElroy but I just like dalton a little better.

Kaepernick (sp?) - I think this kid has a lot of upside but he will need to really work at it.

Don't want to spend a high pick on Newton or Gabbert (sp?). If we are in the mindset of getting a franchise QB in the draft...maybe they should trade down once or twice this year to get future picks and move up to get Luck next year.

Mallett - Kid has the skills...I just don't want to take the chance we get another QC (off the field drug issues).

As far as ragging on the Game film stuff. I was just joking some. I am sure he meant just watching the games through the year, but when you hear someone proclaiming they watch game film it just sounds like they think they are a scout or coach who has special access to the type of film a coach or scout would have. In the end I agree with his overall take so it is no big thing.

jterrell · 02-28-2011

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Locker, to me, is interesting. He probably has the best overall set of skills of all the QBs this year. He needs work and time to develop, that's true but the Cowboys are in a bit of a unique situation here. He would be a guy that if they decided to take him, would be able to sit and learn. He could develop and by year 3, could be in a position to really challenge. That would put Tony in about his 11 season. Would be very interesting to see what the Cowboys might do n that situation.

I hugely disagree.

The skill you most need at QB is an accurate arm.

I can throw the ball hard and far(I did pitch in baseball). I am just insanely inaccurate. I also ran a 4.65 40... I'd have been a great QB prospect? Not a chance.

QBs do not need to win underwear olympics. The best QBs are accurate passers who read the field quickly. That isn't an athletic skill set at all but is definite QB skills. Locker doesn't possess those skills in abundance at all. He missed open receivers and threw inaccurate passes with plenty of regularity this year and in post-season work.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 02-28-2011

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I hugely disagree.

The skill you most need at QB is an accurate arm.

I can throw the ball hard and far(I did pitch in baseball). I am just insanely inaccurate. I also ran a 4.65 40... I'd have been a great QB prospect? Not a chance.

QBs do not need to win underwear olympics. The best QBs are accurate passers who read the field quickly. That isn't an athletic skill set at all but is definite QB skills. Locker doesn't possess those skills in abundance at all. He missed open receivers and threw inaccurate passes with plenty of regularity this year and in post-season work.

Reading the field Quickly and being accurate are two different things.

If his footwork can be worked on it can improve his accuracy.

The speed of his decision making and the improvement of his decision making might be another story all together.

jterrell · 02-28-2011

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He is very inconsistent. I think a good deal of his accuracy issues is due to his footwork. I think if he had a good coach can work with him enough to get that changed it would make a big difference. He also has to work on his decision making of course. I think at times he put too much of the offense on his shoulders to try and get a win (whether that was all on him or if it was kind of pushed on to him).

Personally there are a couple of QBs I like later.

Dalton - much later, Don't know if he would ever be a starter but I think he has the makings of a good backup. I guess the same could be said of McElroy but I just like dalton a little better.

Kaepernick (sp?) - I think this kid has a lot of upside but he will need to really work at it.

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Excellent post.

Basically I'd draft no QB were I Dallas.
I think McGee is the equivalent player to Locker. So I don't see any value for us at QB. The lower rated prospects are probably a 4th best for us and the higher rated ones are big risks we'd have to keep over a partially proven McGee.

And all the QBs seem risky at the top.
It is a blessing indeed not to need to gamble on one.

And if the statement was --- I watch the games--- and not game tape it wouldn't have seemed nearly as absurd or hilarious.