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03-06-2011
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Bunting rumors post combine good stuff
The Newton stuff is not good for those who want Peterson to fall
• Following the Combine, the word I received from a number of scouts is that because of his workout, Alabama’s Julio Jones now likely will be the number one overall wideout off the board over Georgia’s A.J. Green.
• Also following the wide receiver workout a lot of scouts I spoke with were really down on San Diego State’s Vincent Brown, stating that his 4.70 40-time could push him down into the later round range.
• One guy who a lot of scouts are down on is South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders. After showing up a little soft at 270 pounds, a broken bone discovered in his foot during the medical caused him to be unable to workout. After speaking with a couple scouts about him afterward, I was getting the impression he’s not going to be on many teams’ draft boards after this.
• Hearing that if one of the top offensive tackle prospects in the draft were to fall to the Ravens at the end of round one, there would definitely be a lot of interest.
• The more sources I talk with the more I get the feeling that the Patriots will not only be in the market for a rush linebacker in round one, but might be willing to buck the trend and look at a smaller/quicker rush guy, staying away from their more patented bigger build.
• Even with the rise of Alabama DT Marcell Dareus, all the scouts I have talked with still think Auburn DT Nick Fairley is the better NFL prospect.
• Talked to a couple of sources who said they have UCLA FS Rahim Moore graded out as nothing higher than a 3rd-round pick.
• The more scouts I discuss Auburn QB Cam Newton with the more they are afraid of not only his off the field character, but the overall posse he could ultimately end up coming into the league with. They raised the concern of just how committed to football he will be and who in his camp could ultimately keep him distracted from developing.
• There is no denying the talents of Colorado CB Jimmy Smith. However, there is a growing concern from scouts I’ve talked with about his character, which they said could cause him to fall a little further on draft day than most presume.
• Finally, I came out of the Combine hearing differing opinions on Pittsburgh WR Jon Baldwin. Some thought he made himself some money with his workout, others thought he was a bit of a disappointment. I really haven’t gathered a legit consensus on the guy, but in my mind he’s an extremely gifted athlete who can make plays down the field. The key is keeping him hungry and motivated.
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03-06-2011
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Not sure how anyone could be disappointed with the combine Jonathen Baldwin put together.
Would love to see Jimmy Smith fall to our pick in round 2.
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Originally Posted by realtick
Would love to see Jimmy Smith fall to our pick in round 2.
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If we don't go Prince or Amakumara in round one this would be a dream scenario. He won't tackle anything but the guy might have the best pure cover talent in the draft.
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03-06-2011
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This is the second time in the last couple days I have read Smith was a bad guy. The last time they picked a guy like that I believe his name was Mike Jenkins, who hopefully will have his career saved by Ryan because we all know Campo cant. Point being not sure I want two of those guys on the roster.
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03-06-2011
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This is about the time the charactor concerns start to count. People get off their high about watching the combine and start going over the details of each prospect. The reports start coming in from the background checks.
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03-06-2011
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Originally Posted by RS12
• Talked to a couple of sources who said they have UCLA FS Rahim Moore graded out as nothing higher than a 3rd-round pick.
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Yea I mean, this guy could be a low impact player. An above average starter but nothing special. I definitely do not want him in the 2nd. I said a few months ago and its surprisingly starting to stick, that I dont like any safety in this draft better than AOA. Except Deunta.
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Following the Combine, the word I received from a number of scouts is that because of his workout, Alabama’s Julio Jones now likely will be the number one overall wideout off the board over Georgia’s A.J. Green.
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But wait, I thought AJ Green was on another planet than Dez Bryant?
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03-06-2011
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Originally Posted by MarionBarberThe4th
But wait, I thought AJ Green was on another planet than Dez Bryant?
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That's what R2A told me!
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03-06-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by realtick
Not sure how anyone could be disappointed with the combine Jonathen Baldwin put together.
Would love to see Jimmy Smith fall to our pick in round 2.
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would not care for that IMO
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03-06-2011
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This safety class is awful.
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03-06-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texbumthelife
If we don't go Prince or Amakumara in round one this would be a dream scenario. He won't tackle anything but the guy might have the best pure cover talent in the draft.
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Pretty sure you meant Peterson or Prince.
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03-06-2011
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Originally Posted by TheFinisher
This safety class is awful.
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Yes, it is.
Other than Deunta Williams, there's no one that I'd like the Cowboys to pursue, and even he's a question mark coming off of an injury.
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03-06-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texbumthelife
If we don't go Prince or Amakumara in round one this would be a dream scenario. He won't tackle anything but the guy might have the best pure cover talent in the draft.
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If he doesn't tackle Ryan won't have him.
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Norman Einstein." --Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback & sports analyst.
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Originally Posted by MarionBarberThe4th
Yea I mean, this guy could be a low impact player. An above average starter but nothing special. I definitely do not want him in the 2nd. I said a few months ago and its surprisingly starting to stick, that I dont like any safety in this draft better than AOA. Except Deunta.
But wait, I thought AJ Green was on another planet than Dez Bryant?
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I like the idea of giving AOA a chance, I was very excited when we drafted him but knew he wouldn't do much his rookie year, injuries certainly didn't help.
But, I wonder if there really is something there. Maybe while we fans are looking at FS's, the team is looking SS in the draft... but the SS options aren't really all that great either.
Perhaps Quinton Carter, if we want to take another Sooner SS.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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03-06-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RS12
The Newton stuff is not good for those who want Peterson to fall
• Following the Combine, the word I received from a number of scouts is that because of his workout, Alabama’s Julio Jones now likely will be the number one overall wideout off the board over Georgia’s A.J. Green.
• Also following the wide receiver workout a lot of scouts I spoke with were really down on San Diego State’s Vincent Brown, stating that his 4.70 40-time could push him down into the later round range.
• One guy who a lot of scouts are down on is South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders. After showing up a little soft at 270 pounds, a broken bone discovered in his foot during the medical caused him to be unable to workout. After speaking with a couple scouts about him afterward, I was getting the impression he’s not going to be on many teams’ draft boards after this.
[View Full Quote]• Hearing that if one of the top offensive tackle prospects in the draft were to fall to the Ravens at the end of round one, there would definitely be a lot of interest.
• The more sources I talk with the more I get the feeling that the Patriots will not only be in the market for a rush linebacker in round one, but might be willing to buck the trend and look at a smaller/quicker rush guy, staying away from their more patented bigger build.
• Even with the rise of Alabama DT Marcell Dareus, all the scouts I have talked with still think Auburn DT Nick Fairley is the better NFL prospect.
• Talked to a couple of sources who said they have UCLA FS Rahim Moore graded out as nothing higher than a 3rd-round pick.
• The more scouts I discuss Auburn QB Cam Newton with the more they are afraid of not only his off the field character, but the overall posse he could ultimately end up coming into the league with. They raised the concern of just how committed to football he will be and who in his camp could ultimately keep him distracted from developing.
• There is no denying the talents of Colorado CB Jimmy Smith. However, there is a growing concern from scouts I’ve talked with about his character, which they said could cause him to fall a little further on draft day than most presume.
• Finally, I came out of the Combine hearing differing opinions on Pittsburgh WR Jon Baldwin. Some thought he made himself some money with his workout, others thought he was a bit of a disappointment. I really haven’t gathered a legit consensus on the guy, but in my mind he’s an extremely gifted athlete who can make plays down the field. The key is keeping him hungry and motivated.
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The Newton stuff does not surprise me at all.
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03-06-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plankton
Yes, it is.
Other than Deunta Williams, there's no one that I'd like the Cowboys to pursue, and even he's a question mark coming off of an injury.
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I like Rahim Moore as well.
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