What does the team actually think about Sam Young? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

TheCount · 04-23-2011

I don't know if anyone would have any insight on this, but is there a chance they think Young can actually play RT next year?

jblaze2004 · 04-23-2011

i dont know and i dont know if we want to risk it. He couldnt get in over marc "can't move and block" columbo. If he can great but I rather draft and make sure or atleast pick someone up in FA.

supercowboy8 · 04-23-2011

no way is Young ready to start. He is a raw long time development project. many people had Young rated as a UDFA. It took Free 4 years to get on the feild and he was much more ready and better than Young.

dmq · 04-23-2011

He should have started at the end of the year. Sink or swim.

TheCount · 04-23-2011

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Originally Posted by dmq

He should have started at the end of the year. Sink or swim.

Yeah, I didn't understand that. Why didn't Young get any PT at the end of the year? It was pretty strange.

The only reason I bring this up is because I don't want to be caught off guard when we don't take a tackle and then you hear Jerry saying they have faith Sam Young can start, meanwhile no one has ever seen the kid.

SDogo · 04-23-2011

Based on things I have heard the Cowboys are very high on his long term potential. The team really was not comfortable with his growth towards the end of the year and did not feel he was ready which is why you did not see him on the field.

I fully expect him to make a push this year. People I know close to Young say he has been working very hard this offseason and had changed his physical makeup and become much stronger.

I think he's going to see the field A LOT as a starter in preseason, should we have one!

**jobberone** · 04-23-2011

There's only one answer as to why Young didn't play last year. An aging and unhealthy Colombo was better than he was.

SDogo · 04-23-2011

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Originally Posted by jobberone

There's only one answer as to why Young didn't play last year. An aging and unhealthy Colombo was better than he was.

Not the entire story at all. If you think releasing Columbo this year is going to be an easy move for Garrett it's not. There is some loyalty and respect there with Garrett that will make it a hard move.

It's easy to say Columbo was better then Young because one played and one did not but it's not that simple.

UnoDallas · 04-23-2011

I say draft one of the OT's and maybe we never have to find out

AbeBeta · 04-23-2011

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Originally Posted by dmq

He should have started at the end of the year. Sink or swim.

that is moronic. OT need time to develop. Doug Free -- a guy who we really liked from day 1 -- didn't start until the middle of his 2nd year. That's pretty much what a late round OT needs to do in order to develop. Teams expect that when the draft guys.

But hey, if you say "sink or swim" that must be the right way to develop them.

**Idgit** · 04-24-2011

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Originally Posted by AbeBeta

that is moronic. OT need time to develop. Doug Free -- a guy who we really liked from day 1 -- didn't start until the middle of his 2nd year. That's pretty much what a late round OT needs to do in order to develop. Teams expect that when the draft guys.

But hey, if you say "sink or swim" that must be the right way to develop them.

Most of our fans haven't the foggiest notion what goes into developing a starting OL. It's the same group that was falling all over itself calling Doug Free a bust for 3 years--the hardest core of which still wants to move him to RT.

We're probably expecting Young to make a legitimate push for playing time in year three--once he's worked on his strength sufficiently and addressed everything he needs to work on with his footwork and fundamentals.

I also think the team understands Colombo was playing with turf toe at the end of last season and that that contributed to how poorly he was playing at the end of the year. He may well get hurt again next season, but it's a pretty safe bet they're expecting him to improve over last year's performance if they need to count on him to start.

burmafrd · 04-24-2011

Well maybe because we see other teams able to develope OL in one or two years and wonder why it takes us so much longer. Or maybe the fact that this team has developed ONE starting quality O LINEMAN in the last 8 years outside of Free. This staff has not earned itself any trust at all as regards drafting and developing O line. So their claim they like Sam Young's long term potential MEANS NOTHING.

ThreeandOut · 04-24-2011

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Originally Posted by SDogo

Based on things I have heard the Cowboys are very high on his long term potential. The team really was not comfortable with his growth towards the end of the year and did not feel he was ready which is why you did not see him on the field.

I fully expect him to make a push this year. People I know close to Young say he has been working very hard this offseason and had changed his physical makeup and become much stronger.

I think he's going to see the field A LOT as a starter in preseason, should we have one!

Based on the limited action he had in preseason, Young impressed me more in his first year than Free. There's definitely some potential there if he continues to develop and I think he could be the third OT this year. Unfortunately, youthful, developing players like Young are hurt the most the longer this lockout drags on.

stasheroo · 04-24-2011

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Originally Posted by AbeBeta

that is moronic. OT need time to develop. Doug Free -- a guy who we really liked from day 1 -- didn't start until the middle of his 2nd year. That's pretty much what a late round OT needs to do in order to develop. Teams expect that when the draft guys.

But hey, if you say "sink or swim" that must be the right way to develop them.

And why did Free start? Because the team felt he was ready?

No.

He started out of necessity when Colombo got hurt (again).

If that doesn't happen he's likely still on the bench.

Nobody gets a chance to play around here unless one of the guys the team is 'comfortable with' gets hurt. No matter if it's the last meaningless game of a failed season or otherwise.

You don't make your final decision one way or the other based on one game, but better to see a player in live action for that one game than not at all.

burmafrd · 04-24-2011

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And why did Free start? Because the team felt he was ready?

No.

He started out of necessity when Colombo got hurt (again).

If that doesn't happen he's likely still on the bench.

Nobody gets a chance to play around here unless one of the guys the team is 'comfortable with' gets hurt. No matter if it's the last meaningless game of a failed season or otherwise.

You don't make your final decision one way or the other based on one game, but better to see a player in live action for that one game than not at all.

Miles Austin- he got his shot because Roy got hurt. Otherwise he would have still been a bit player.